DEADLIFTS - How much of a difference does the bar make?

[PillarofBalance]

It only allows for improvement b/c you know how to pull with a DL bar. For those who have never pulled with one... they'll find it different and may even hurt them numbers wise in the beginning.

I remember my first time clearly. It was my opening pull at my first meet lol

my opener came flying off the floor because it felt like a rack pull to me. Wound up with a big ass pr for the day because of it. It was only 530 which wasn't quite enough to really bend the bar but heavy enough for it to move slow and not whip so bad.

last Friday when I did the 545 for triples that bar was whipping like a sumbitch though

 

[porky little keg]

A bar makes a HUGE difference on all lifts.....

Deadlift, especially, because of the whip and grip of the bar. No amount of chalk can fix a slick bar.

The whip is nice on DL if you can pull the slack out before the ascent, but if you're not used to it some sumo pullers get messed up at lockout with it.
You want a stiff squat and bench bar though.

 

[ketsugo]

TO a degree, yes, I agree with you....however, POB and I have trained with stiffer bars for a couple weeks then we go back to the DL bar and we've made some great progress....not a permanent change but with speed lifts at 60-70%, IMO it's ok but not for 80% or more....with that %, stick to the thin grip, whippy bars.

Interesting info more more more

 

[ketsugo]

I remember my first time clearly. It was my opening pull at my first meet lol

my opener came flying off the floor because it felt like a rack pull to me. Wound up with a big ass pr for the day because of it. It was only 530 which wasn't quite enough to really bend the bar but heavy enough for it to move slow and not whip so bad.

last Friday when I did the 545 for triples that bar was whipping like a sumbitch though

Fascinating - so is it safe for me to guess that I could learn to make the whipping motion if the bar wirk for me?

 

[BrotherIron]

Yup, makes total sense.

The stiffer bars are almost like a deficit pull....but as I stated earlier, it's not for the heavy sessions IMO.

Yup, and that's why i need to pick up a DL bar for my gym. I gotta hit up some meets and see if a promoter has a beater bar I can take off their hands.

 

[PillarofBalance]

Fascinating - so is it safe for me to guess that I could learn to make the whipping motion if the bar wirk for me?

Yes. If you are pulling with a deadlift bar it flexes as you initiate the pull. And the weights don't break the floor at the exact same time. So with say a Texas deadlift bar which is moderately whippy and very reasonably priced with anything over 450 on the bar it will reach midshin before all the weight breaks
When i pulled 605 last week the bar was damn near at my knees. It let's you keep the chest up and the spine in alignment.

But where it will screw you up is at the top as the weight bounces around. The trick is to squeeze the lats hard which keeps the bar against the legs while squeezing the glutes which then pushes the thighs against the bar. Pins it in place similar to how the over under grip works.

 

[PillarofBalance]

I went back at watched the vid of my pull. Maybe just below the knee was a bit exxagerated. Felt that way though lol...

Here is a pic of me and my Texas dl bar with 605. You can see the severe flex in the bar.

http://imgur.com/q9bGCkX

 

[BrotherIron]

Can't see the pic.

 

[PillarofBalance]

How about now?

 

[BrotherIron]

I can see it now and it proves you're a red head, lol.

 

[Rottenrogue]

Boom !!!!!!!

 

[graniteman]

I can see it now and it proves you're a red head, lol.

AH HAA! Finally proof of the Gingervitus among us...Soul less...evil...ginger