Depending if it's water based if it is then I personally wouldn't use it, but if it's oil then I'd be all over it like a rash, i currently use it in a oil form, and site inject pre workout with a iu needle, I only use 0.3ml in each training muscle. The pumps are crazy. Especially if you mix it with tren base and tne. The injection site is saw the next day but nothing unbearable.