Is HGH best run simultaneously w/ gear?

[Dr_jitsu]

Finally going to pick up some HGH. I have 37 years of training under my belt, have competed 13 times (won twice, NPC National qualifiers...I still do gear and diuretic programs for competitive bodybuilders) but am a NOOB when it comes to HGH. I do know that it should work wonders at my age (51) as my IGF-1 is lower than whale poop.

The question is, should I run HGH simultaneously w/ gear? Just finished my 4th week of test,5-600 mgs a week, NPP 350, and some moderate dosage var. I just dropped the NPP and replaced it w/ Primo. My body fat was too high at the beginning of the cycle, but is quite a bit lower now (14-15 % guesstimate...will be lower in another 4 weeks). I am 5'9 fairly small framed and 230 lbs.

I will be getting a 2 month supply of rips that have been tested (IGF-1 levels dramatically up for someone who is already using the Rips). I will eventually pick up another 2 month supply w/ in a month.

If I go off gear, and run just GH, will the GH be as effective s it is w/ gear run simultaneously?

 

[Miker]

Start the gh first for a month or so, then start you're gear.

But to answer your question, Yes gh works better ran with gear. IMO

 

[kbordner]

Yo Doc I am 56 and GH is the shit at my age....I would start with the GH and a low dose of Test or EQ. Then after a a few months add in your anabolics. GH/Test and Var or GH/Test and Primo. It's a beautiful thing.

 

[Mike_RN]

Are you on HRT? (Self-prescribed or Dr.). HGH works very well on cycle, but I also get great results during my off phase which is 200mg/wk Cyp. Are you looking for fatloss/anti-aging effects or building?

 

[Bigwhite]

Also consider GHRH/GHRP. You will get more bang for your buck from the gh than gh alone...

 

[chestrockwell420]

I like to run gh all the time but when I run with gear I get pretty ripped, doesn't allow me to put much fat on, which suc bc it seems im not putting weight on in the winter when I want to.

I havnt tried the ghrp/ghrh combo yet....think that will help pack on some pounds?

 

[Mike_RN]

Not if GH doesn't let you do it.

 

[Bigwhite]

I like to run gh all the time but when I run with gear I get pretty ripped, doesn't allow me to put much fat on, which suc bc it seems im not putting weight on in the winter when I want to.

I havnt tried the ghrp/ghrh combo yet....think that will help pack on some pounds?

Allows for large natural gh release so less synthetic can be used with same results basically...

 

[Dr_jitsu]

Thanks everyone, good advice. I need to get over here more often, as I want to avoid all the pissing matches at my regular forum (which also has a very important role to play in my PED world).

I started at 5IU's of rips on a 5-2 schedule. The Rips have been tested, both for growth and by elevated IGF-1 levels. Hands have become numb, so I am backing off to 3 IU's, 5-2. I plan on running for 6 months.

When I started, I had been off all gear for 4 weeks (was still on pct, taking Nolvadex). W/in 12 days, I gained 15 lbs....I know that was mostly water. I then went back on test c (have a script) plus some test p. Also using DMN, a long acting deca and NPP. Pumped about 600 mgs of DMN/NPP and 400of test.

I will stop taking DMN soon, especially as it would leave metabolites around for months. Will be using a combo of test c/p 500 mgs/week and NPP, 350/week.

I am over 240 lbs, so I am not as concerned about getting big anymore, I just want t get leaner, a bit stronger, and also have top cardio when I teach grappling.

Starting 40 mgs of var, then switching over to winney.

When I was competing, and also doing gear programs for other combat athletes, I would have them run 400 test/week, 300 EQ, and Halotestin before fighting/training. My Hematocrit gets too high, so EQ is out, unless I can give a blood donation.

 

[GiantSlayer]

If hgh stimulates satellite cell division and AAS stimulates the protein synthesis required for the growth of those cells then pairing hgh with AAS is a match made in heaven.

 

[ketsugo]

Of course it is - if you could only run 2 things test and hgh. Hgh amplifies the results but will not give results alone and the results aren't dramatic they sort of creep up on you . Compare bodybuilder of 60s and 70s to now . Usually however the freakiness of today are mega doses of aas along with hgh and carefully planned insulin - but I say that with caution as you really need to be careful if you use insulin . While it is the most anabolic hormone packs on muscle fastest it can kill you instantly if you don't time and eat correctly .

 

[graniteman]

Yes....,,,,,