Ah, thanks for that.. will read them during my layover… like I said all I knew was kisspeptin had a somewhat narrow therapeutic window. Nice… and yes agree on the HCG and downstreamBeen doing some reading on Kisspeptin, a friend that works for a "Wellness Clinic" said they routinely prescribe it for sexual medicine so I decided to give it a try. So far can't feel anything different than just HCG, but Kisspeptin-10 and short t 1/2 sc is very different that Kisspeptin-54 IV. Dosing for the K-10 is 200 mcg and 500 IU HCG twice a week. A couple other papers on HCG. The feeling better with HCG likely has to do with the downstream hormones that are suppressed with TRT. See the Amory paper. Another reason I have always run HCG with TRT.
I've been a slacker for past few years...maybe forever??? I haven't used HCG in several years I feel my "restart" was successful but has been diminishing, balls feel like soft grapes and very little ejaculate...just sayin. Wife doesn't mind but it's bothering me. Libido is still pretty solid, erections good but not driving nails.Hard to believe only two members of TID use HCG.
I have wondered about that. I am gyno prone and whenever I run HCG I have to run an AI. Not a huge deal but I get migraines from AIs and even sarms like nolva. I have no idea why but 2-3 migraines a week SUCKS!I just ran kisspeptin10 for just shy of four weeks...I didn't run hcg with it. (TRT obviously)...The kisspeptin10 had a very mild libido affect. It was different than hcg...I also had no sides with kiss10 and I say that because hcg can blow my bp up. The feeling of "fullness" that hcg gives definitely came on slower with kiss10 but when it was there it was wow, "ok, there you are"...but kiss10, for me, stared fading off in being effective after about two weeks. I probably needed to raise the dose but I only had one vial. It was good, I could get used to having it around if I can find some cheaper or out of china for pennies. One major thing though...the "fullness" working the pipes that hcg has that last for weeks or longer after stopping use is not there with kiss10...within days I knew it was done. To be honest if they could figure out how to make kiss10 an oral use it would be great.
Have you tried running some Mast or Primo to mitigate the HCG gyno instead of an AI?I have wondered about that. I am gyno prone and whenever I run HCG I have to run an AI. Not a huge deal but I get migraines from AIs and even sarms like nolva. I have no idea why but 2-3 migraines a week SUCKS!
What dose did you run it at?
At this point, just sticking with 500 IU HCG twice a week. The KISS really didn't have any additional effect.Ah, thanks for that.. will read them during my layover… like I said all I knew was kisspeptin had a somewhat narrow therapeutic window. Nice… and yes agree on the HCG and downstream
Hormones
TC, 10mg, IM, QD, in quads with slin pin.
HCG, 500iu, M, W, F… broscience, but many seem to report the same, they just “feel better” with some of their own T floating around… might be more related to supporting downstream hormones.
Humanofort, 200mg, BID for more downstream hormones.
Nowadays tend to run 8 weeks TRT, 8 weeks cycle of various, but always HCG.
Been doing some reading on Kisspeptin, a friend that works for a "Wellness Clinic" said they routinely prescribe it for sexual medicine so I decided to give it a try. So far can't feel anything different than just HCG, but Kisspeptin-10 and short t 1/2 sc is very different that Kisspeptin-54 IV. Dosing for the K-10 is 200 mcg and 500 IU HCG twice a week. A couple other papers on HCG. The feeling better with HCG likely has to do with the downstream hormones that are suppressed with TRT. See the Amory paper. Another reason I have always run HCG with TRT.
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