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WTF My test levels went down !!!

kid666

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I appreciate the graphs, I've been manipulating my bloodwork for many years, to keep the RX Test script. Unfortunately, these parts you come in to high (in their opinion) they lower your dose or stop your script. Precise reason i did my own TRT for years as to not deal with the Docs.
 
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en manipulating my bloodwork for many years, to keep the RX Test script. Unfortunately, these parts you come in to high (in their opinion) they lower your dose or stop your script. Precise reason i did my own TRT for years as to not deal with the Docs.


Gotcha. My advice then is to use a 1/2 life calc to estimate the time it would take to drop your levels to where they would be on your trt dose.


Then do drop your dose 2 weeks before your blood works and then resume your prescribed amount. You can do more time. The more time you give it, the more accurate it will be, but the key would be figuring out how long you need to stop totally to drop levels back to your target.

So to do that, just use a 1/2 life calc. In one column put your ACTUAL amount you intaking. In the next column put your prescribed trt dose. In the figures column, just go out 12 weeks. It takes 7-8 to see stable blood levels for cyp. Then at 10 weeks, dont enter any values for the first col. Continue the prescribed dose in the 2nd col. Then graph. You will see how long after last dose those lines cross to get you CLOSE to your proper baseline.
 
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That is strange. If you haven't tried it, I would recommend 20mg every other day SubQ. My levels stay at 560 and I get zero sides. For me its ALLLL about my blood levels consistent.
 
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@kid666


I just graphed it out and did some calcs.
Do you understand 1/2 lifes? Sounds pretty normal to me.

Here is a graph of 3 differnt things.

BLUE is your regimen of shot of 200 Sun and 100 wed.
Yellow is 200 Sun
Red is 75/ week (which was a guess of what might yield numbers in the 375ish range.

It does not seem like you are super accurate in tracking exact times of stoppage and testing. Just a day or two difference from cessation make LARGE drops in numbers,

So 10 days from your peak of where you were taking your 300, puts you down where you would be on 75 (or 375-ish etc)

Does not seem out of whack to me. Add in variability of how each individual metabolizes, and totally plausible. You simply cant get accurate readings by totally cutting off and trying to 'time' your testing.

Better to have stable administration and take your blood work 5-7 days after shot (mid point of peak)




There is nothing meaningful to be gained from your blood work unless you just want to please your Dr. You are manipulating your bloodwork, so what is to be gained. If you are going to jump right back on 300/week. Just go get a private test when you are doing your 'normal' routine.

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So, just want to say that for a member to go through all this to help a brother out deserves mad respect. Mad props Mac
 
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So, just want to say that for a member to go through all this to help a brother out deserves mad respect. Mad props Mac
That is cool, but I have a debt that will never be paid to some members here at TID. Some are no longer on this earth, but I could never repay the help others have given me here. There is so much bad info out there. Coming at this 'enhanced training' later in my life, I am so lucky to have found this place. I try to share just a touch of what I have learned. I certainly dont know everything, but I think this is what sets places like this apart.

I need to check in here more though. Just in a rut in my own training. I have been just dropping in and only reading too much.
 
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I am late to the party. I had the same problem as soon as I stopped. my levels were below minimum within weeks. That endocrine system of ours is flawed majorly for the light skinned gene codes. According to the endocrine specialist that visited said the first few labs can be skewed on the graphs, so their training requires more labs for data analysis to determine is that is true set of readings.
 
Glycomann

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TSH also uses SHBG along with steroid hormones so that could have something to do with it. For instance if it is low then your testosterone could be metabolized more quickly.
 
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