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what exactly is the difference between illegal and legal steroids?

Mikeywaine1

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I have some sort of idea as to what steroids do, but have no idea which are legal/illegal or how to acquire them
 
shortz

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and so the real reason you are here begins to surface.

All steroids are illegal. The Bush admin made the first steps in making it a felony to possess them. Then pretty much everything else got added to the list later.
 
Lizard King

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depending on what you are looking into and where you are located would translate into the legality of what you can and can't buy. Just to be clear, since you are in the US, many of the steroids taken are not illegal, they are illegal to purchase without a valid prescription from a physician. The same with HGH and other items taken by many bodybuilders, power lifters, strongmen etc

There are 5 classifications of drugs in the US, you can do a search on the Interwebz
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/default.htm
 
Mikeywaine1

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shortz: I don't want to try them, just learn.
 
Mikeywaine1

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lizard king: thanks! ill see what all there is to find out
 
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shortz: I don't want to try them, just learn.

The point about not knowing how/where to acquire them also makes me skeptical as to why you have joined here, if you don't want to try them why would knowing where to get them be relevant to your learning?
 
GuerillaKilla

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Don't do drugs.

Drugs are bad, m'kay.
 
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Mikey, you're still young, it sometimes takes years, decades even to become a finely tuned cynical old fart like myself.

The word "business" begins with a B and ends with an S. Advertisements you see for legal steroids or steroid alternatives are usually from businesses that want to surgically remove you from your money. There were such things within the last 10 yrs or so, varying effectiveness, varying health dangers chemicals that were just different enough from government definitions to be sold legally. Uncle Sam has played a pretty good game of catch-up ever since, if you value your money, and your health, buyer beware.
 
PillarofBalance

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Basically anything referred to as legal steroids or a legal steroid alternative is a bogus dietary supplement. They don't work.
 
Mikeywaine1

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thanks guys, but no steroids isn't really what I'm interested in, I'm proud to say all of what ive done has been natural
 
matthewk04

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All steroids are illegal. Take Tylenol, fast food, and alcohol, instead.
 
Titan

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I have some sort of idea as to what steroids do, but have no idea which are legal/illegal or how to acquire them
This is a post over at AB I wrote Ill give the link and post a brief excerpt here:

In order to understand why LE think the way they do, let’s take a quick trip down memory lane.

I know why. But some may not know when and why juice became illegal. This is for the new guys/gals. Remember I’m writing this little article for the un-informed, not the vet/VIP.

1984 – For many years the medical and pharmaceutical industry denied that Testosterone or any other AAS actually did anything to build muscle or enhance physical performance… hard to believe, but they thought if people understood it didn’t work then they wouldn’t use it… WRONG. The American College of Sports Medicine came out and finally admitted they were wrong and that AAS was extremely effective at building muscle. Their "reeducation" tactic had failed so now they switched to fear tactics such as "steroids can kill" and they began to focus more and more on younger athletes.

1984-1987 - During the next few years there was a dramatic rise in anti-steroid media coverage. The media are always looking for negative and fear inducing news to spike the ratings. One California physician who had strong ties to the NFL even stated that "young athletes who take heavy doses of anabolic steroids from 60 to 90 days can expect to die in their 30's and 40's" This totally unsubstantiated claim started a media feeding frenzy. It got more intense as the Sports Illustrated story called "The Nightmare of Steroids" by a South Carolina lineman Tommy Chaikin and Rick Telander detailed Chaikins medical and psychological ails after steroid abuse. As the pressure built, Congress began to get more involved.

1987 - Doctors, in an effort to keep big Pharmaceutical companies honest start calling for controlled substance status of steroids, not because of any health issues, but to prevent the drug companies from over-producing steroids and allowing those supplies to find their way to the black market. WHY? ... so they could secretly profit from AAS. The new bills being proposed to control the distribution of steroids still placed no controls on the manufacturing of steroids by the pharmaceutical companies and of course the drug companies took advantage of that to sell more drugs. See W.D. Taylor M.D's "Synthetic Anabolic Androgenic Steroids: a Plea for controlled substance status" The Physician and Sports Medicine ( Volume 15, Num 5, May 1987 )

1988 - September, amidst a media frenzy Canadian Ben Johnson was stripped of his Gold Medal after testing positive for Anabolic Androgenic steroid use.
1988 - November 18 Ronald Regan signs a bill into law as part of the Anti Drug Abuse Act. While this bill did not classify steroids as controlled substances it still called for 3 years prison time for distribution of AAS, up to six years if sold to minors. This law allowed for the arrest of distributors without authorizing the arrest of personal users.

1989 - An old man in New Mexico gets a mail order catalog for AAS in his mailbox. The media frenzy around steroids was such that this incident was enough to spurn on a new bill. Bill H.R. 995 proposed to create an "Anabolic Steroid Restriction Act." Carl Lewis testified on behalf of the bill and even though it did not pass into law it foreshadows how the amateur user of AAS would be treated as felons just for getting an AAS via the mail.
1990 - Bill HR 4658, The Anabolic Steroid Control Act, gets signed into legislation and adds Anabolic Androgenic Steroids to the Controlled Substances Act by inserting them into 21 U.S.C 802. HGH was also added to the Controlled Substances Act. AAS and HGH were now right up there with Cocaine, heroin and the most addictive psychoactive narcotics in the world. Fucking amazing but true…

Before a drug can be put into Schedules of Controlled Substances, it must meet the following requirements of 21 USC 811. They are:

• Its actual or relative potential for abuse
• Scientific evidence of its pharmacological effect
• Current scientific knowledge regarding the drug
• Its history and current pattern of abuse
• The scope, duration and seriousness of abuse
• Psychic or physiological dependence liability
• Risks, if any to public health
• Whether the substance is an immediate precursor of a currently controlled substance

Only the Attorney General of the United States has the authority to add new substances to the controlled substances schedules in America. The attorney general is supposed to request an evaluation and the official recommendation from the Secretary of Health and Humans Services. The acting Attorney General at the time was Edwin Meese. He went right by the book and asked the Secretary of Health and Humans Services as well as the DEA (Drug enforcement Agency) for their views on adding AAS to the controlled substances schedules.



The Drug Enforcement Agency and the Secretary of Health and Humans Services both evaluated AAS on the basis of the above eight factors. On October 1, 1987, John Lawn Administor of the DEA concluded that Anabolic Androgenic Steroids should NOT be made controlled substances. On March 15, 1988 Secretary of Health and Humans Services Otis Bowen also agreed that AAS should not be made controlled substances.

Both the DEA and Secretary of Health and Human Services both believed that AAS should not be controlled substances and made that clear to the Attorney General who in turn made it clear to congress. As you can see by the timeline above congress did not listen as they forced AAS into the controlled substances schedule via the Anti Drug Abuse Act of November 18.
Why did our government ignore the official recommendations of the Attorney General, DEA and the Secretary of Health and Humans Services?
It is up to you to decide why they decided to ignore their own laws. The Secretary of Health and Human Services
The The General Attorney
American Medical Association
The Drug Enforcement Agency

The foremost medical experts at the time were all against making anabolic androgenic steroids a controlled substance.
A few more facts about Androgenic Anabolic Steroids:
They are now prescribed by doctors more than ever !!!
HRT, (hormone replacement therapy) continues to benefit thousands of middle aged men.
Anabolic Androgenic Steroids have never been conclusively linked to a single death. The same cannot be said for the nation’s most popular high blood pressure medication, which kills thousands of people a year.

The politicians went on their own tangent in support of big business and the media, happy to have more scary news for better ratings helped push it through. Thirty years of this and the public perception of Steroids has completely shifted. It would take a miracle of awareness for it to be balanced again.

FROM AB: http://anabolicboard.com/forums/sho...cussion-on-safety-precautions?highlight=Titan
 
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