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JackD

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Its 10mg/ Percent. 10% is 100mg 20% is 200mg. Test base is used or TNE/ Test suspension which is active about 8-12 hrs. It does not build up in the skin when we are talking about a compound. Now if there is some specific brand like pfizer with a differnt releasing agent that might be different but I dont believe thats the case.

I'm just going by what i know about androgel and usage. I know each 5 gram packet is 1% testosterone, and roughly the amount absorbed every day would equal a 100mg shot of cyp a week. Works great for some and its applied easily.
 

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It's hard to say SAD, some do great with the lower dose gels and some it takes alot more. He would be alot happier on T injects as almost all end up on the injects after trying the gels. 5% gel.....alot don't seem to get above mid-500's (older guys)
 
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I didnt know how to quote this someandone: "Unfortunately, my Dad is a "by-the-books" kinda guy, and he would not ask for a specific diagnosis, even if it would allow for his ins to cover him. I do worry about his levels actually dropping, but I guess we'll see. I'm not going to wait 6 weeks though. I'll pay for some independent testing online, and have him go give blood at Labcorp in a couple weeks. He and I can interpret the results to the best of our abilities and be prepared when he goes back to the doctor.

And he is in Central Florida. Thanks for the offer of possibly being able to recommend someone."
Im not telling him to ask for un true diagnosis. Im saying the doc can give a diagnosis code based on his feelings. He dosent feel fatigue, overweight, or any of the other symptoms? The more symptoms you turn in the better the chances. What was his reason for starting this? That will help you narrow it down. Also, my father is in the same boat and about to start. he wont jab him self either. I have to start him out slow.
As for recommendations, i can definitely help. Im in FL as well. Let me put a list together. If you can pm me a town or city I can try to get one closest to him with a great reference. Compound test cyp @ 200mg/wk with DR fees and shipping will run you on avg about $160 - $175 for 10 wks. That is everything. someone is going to come and say that is high but they are not taking into consideration the shipping, dr fee, medication, and needles. That will not include hcg and anastrozle.
 
crowman

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It's hard to say SAD, some do great with the lower dose gels and some it takes alot more. He would be alot happier on T injects as almost all end up on the injects after trying the gels. 5% gel.....alot don't seem to get above mid-500's (older guys)

This is true. I have a study somewhere showing that 50mg of clomid EOD actually yields better results for males with Low T than 5% androgel everyday and its a fraction of the cost. This is another option and cheaper one if he wont inject and doc does not like prescribing a higher cream. The dose of cream he has him on is way too low. That like doing a shot of prop 2x a wk. it does more harm than good cause you just shut down the endogenous production.
 
crowman

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I'm just going by what i know about androgel and usage. I know each 5 gram packet is 1% testosterone, and roughly the amount absorbed every day would equal a 100mg shot of cyp a week. Works great for some and its applied easily.

Androgel is 5%. Example. When we order patients meds they get a 60Gram supply which is good for 60 days. 60grams of 10% test cream is a 60 day supply @ 100mg/day but again they never absorb close to that. Another way to think of it is alot of people use 20% test cream. If the math you are saying was correct 20% means they would be getting 1000mg per dose which no one would do nor could you absorb it. Im not trying to be a dick in any way im just saying your math is off. Here is a link on Androgel:A daily application of AndroGel 5 g, 7.5 g, or 10 g contains 50 mg, 75 mg, or 100 mg of testosterone, respectively, to be applied daily to the skin's surface. Approximately 10% of the applied testosterone dose is absorbed across skin of average permeability during a 24-hour period.
 
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Androgel sucks - it's alcohol based. The best transdermals are the compounded ones using VersaBase (VersaBase still isn't as good as PhloJel Ultra) or similar. Absorption is 1% for Androgel. They also make a 10-g gel that is 1%.
 
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NDLessPSYcle

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There is a member here who is a HRT Clinic based out of FLA. I dont think he chimes in much but it is a possible solution for your pops in a by the book way....
 
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Crowman, I sent you a PM. It isn't in my sent box though so I'm not sure if it went though.
 
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Anyone that knows of a good doc in the MD/VA/DC area please PM me.
 
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