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Littleguy

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I LOVE how tren makes me feel and look even at my little girl doses of 200-300 (max) mg per week, however it makes it s that I cannot urinate more than 1/2 oz at a time 428x per day and have very serious trouble achieving orgasm after about week 2 on it.
The latter makes my super hot chic work her ass off and or feel like she is not hot enough or doing the wild thing good enough so that has been an issue.
Does anyone else get these same issues from Tren E in particular?
I have tried the 1/2 a cialis pd etc but what else can help ?
Any and all input appreciated.
Cheers Gents and Bova...lol
 
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LG,
Do you know where your prolactin level is at? Could be at least a part of the issue.
Caber is overkill for a majority, but you could try / have you tried, a couple hundred daily mg of P5P?
It’s inexpensive enough and could potentially be of benefit.
I like to try the simplest remedies first.
 
Littleguy

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LG,
Do you know where your prolactin level is at? Could be at least a part of the issue.
Caber is overkill for a majority, but you could try / have you tried, a couple hundred daily mg of P5P?
It’s inexpensive enough and could potentially be of benefit.
I like to try the simplest remedies first.
not at all I will try some caber I have it on hand 1/2 tab 3x per week or what?
What is P5P?
 
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not at all I will try some caber I have it on hand 1/2 tab 3x per week or what?
What is P5P?

P5P is the active, bioavailable form of B6. For many if not most, it’s an effective caber replacement without the sides caber can / often has for many.
Just simpler for most users with our needs.
 
Type-IIx

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I LOVE how tren makes me feel and look even at my little girl doses of 200-300 (max) mg per week, however it makes it s that I cannot urinate more than 1/2 oz at a time 428x per day and have very serious trouble achieving orgasm after about week 2 on it.
The latter makes my super hot chic work her ass off and or feel like she is not hot enough or doing the wild thing good enough so that has been an issue.
Does anyone else get these same issues from Tren E in particular?
I have tried the 1/2 a cialis pd etc but what else can help ?
Any and all input appreciated.
Cheers Gents and Bova...lol
Are you taking anything that might actually be responsible for A) urinary hesitancy and incontinence, and/or B) anorgasmia?

Tren does not increase prolactin (it reduces it). And urinary hesitancy as you describe is, to start, not indicative of an enlarged prostate because, mainly, tren does not do this. Test might at least hypothetically contribute (though the relationship is insignificant) to prostate enlargement, but is not a rapid action, and even at doses up to 600 mg, there was no significant effect of testosterone on prostate size per Bhasin's data.

Are you taking opioids like kratom that can relax muscles involved in urination and lead to urinary retention & sexual dysfunction (including substantial effects on prolactin)? This I've seen plenty of, so I must ask. If so, stop. Are you on high dose aromatizing androgen like test that can at least hypothetically cause prostate enlargement AND increased serum prolactin by aromatization to estradiol? Note that despite at least some plausibility, this is unlikely (only trends have been observed; never a significant cause-effect). Or are you willing to consider the power of the human psyche as an element in A) & B) [most likely]?

Cabergoline:
While D2 agonists like caber increase sexual potency and decrease the male refractory period (highly conducive to lots of sex)... they're unnecessary considering that tren reduces serum prolactin to begin with. But people use it because this effect can be addictive.

p5p:
A 1982 study "Pyridoxine (B6) Suppresses the Rise in Prolactin and Increases the Rise in Growth Hormone Induced by Exercise" is the ostensible basis for the widespread belief (promulgated by /r/steroids/wiki) that p5p is an appropriate supplement for reducing serum prolactin (and perhaps increasing serum GH). This belief is based on the single-page published results demonstrating that, perhaps, an IV infusion of 600mg B6+saline during a cycle ergometer at 80% maximal heart rate for 8 minutes (to induce endogenous GH/prolactin release post-exercise) may attenuate the post-exercise increase in prolactin and augment the post-exercise increase in serum GH concentrations.

Several studies in the 70s and 80s demonstrated this to be inapplicable for any non-exercise-induced increase of serum prolactin (all the evidence; a cursory search demonstrates this), and the matter was dropped as a topic for research.
 
genetic freak

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I LOVE how tren makes me feel and look even at my little girl doses of 200-300 (max) mg per week, however it makes it s that I cannot urinate more than 1/2 oz at a time 428x per day and have very serious trouble achieving orgasm after about week 2 on it.
The latter makes my super hot chic work her ass off and or feel like she is not hot enough or doing the wild thing good enough so that has been an issue.
Does anyone else get these same issues from Tren E in particular?
I have tried the 1/2 a cialis pd etc but what else can help ?
Any and all input appreciated.
Cheers Gents and Bova...lol
I had the same issues on 100 mg of parabolan every three days. I ended up taking 0.5 mg of caber the day after each injection and it went away.
 
Littleguy

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Are you taking anything that might actually be responsible for A) urinary hesitancy and incontinence, and/or B) anorgasmia?

Tren does not increase prolactin (it reduces it). And urinary hesitancy as you describe is, to start, not indicative of an enlarged prostate because, mainly, tren does not do this. Test might at least hypothetically contribute (though the relationship is insignificant) to prostate enlargement, but is not a rapid action, and even at doses up to 600 mg, there was no significant effect of testosterone on prostate size per Bhasin's data.

Are you taking opioids like kratom that can relax muscles involved in urination and lead to urinary retention & sexual dysfunction (including substantial effects on prolactin)? This I've seen plenty of, so I must ask. If so, stop. Are you on high dose aromatizing androgen like test that can at least hypothetically cause prostate enlargement AND increased serum prolactin by aromatization to estradiol? Note that despite at least some plausibility, this is unlikely (only trends have been observed; never a significant cause-effect). Or are you willing to consider the power of the human psyche as an element in A) & B) [most likely]?

Cabergoline:
While D2 agonists like caber increase sexual potency and decrease the male refractory period (highly conducive to lots of sex)... they're unnecessary considering that tren reduces serum prolactin to begin with. But people use it because this effect can be addictive.

p5p:
A 1982 study "Pyridoxine (B6) Suppresses the Rise in Prolactin and Increases the Rise in Growth Hormone Induced by Exercise" is the ostensible basis for the widespread belief (promulgated by /r/steroids/wiki) that p5p is an appropriate supplement for reducing serum prolactin (and perhaps increasing serum GH). This belief is based on the single-page published results demonstrating that, perhaps, an IV infusion of 600mg B6+saline during a cycle ergometer at 80% maximal heart rate for 8 minutes (to induce endogenous GH/prolactin release post-exercise) may attenuate the post-exercise increase in prolactin and augment the post-exercise increase in serum GH concentrations.

Several studies in the 70s and 80s demonstrated this to be inapplicable for any non-exercise-induced increase of serum prolactin (all the evidence; a cursory search demonstrates this), and the matter was dropped as a topic for research.
I was shot in the groin in 1995 and have had issues with urinating and having an orgasm in any normal time frame but with Tren it is even more problematic, no erectile issues thank God.
I do no recreational drugs or alcohol ever and no tobacco products of any type.
I am on 1 sustanon and 200mg of tren E every 7 days with 25mg of Anavar in the morning and one in the evening.
I dropped the tren a few days ago.
 
Type-IIx

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I was shot in the groin in 1995 and have had issues with urinating and having an orgasm in any normal time frame but with Tren it is even more problematic, no erectile issues thank God.
I do no recreational drugs or alcohol ever and no tobacco products of any type.
I am on 1 sustanon and 200mg of tren E every 7 days with 25mg of Anavar in the morning and one in the evening.
I dropped the tren a few days ago.
OK getting shot in the groin should absolutely be considered a relevant factor.

1 250 mg Sustanon ampoule weekly? How long have you been on the A) 250 mg (presumably) Sustanon, and B) trenbolone enanthate?

Do you monitor PSA (prostate-specific antigen)?

Do you take any SSRIs?
 
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Two weeks just isn't enough time to blow the prostate up with anything, at least enough to cause flow issues, no lit to support it. My guess with a lot of the androgen related, rapid response is more a CNS or PNS issue that leads to pelvic floor dysfunction. Try flomax and see if that helps with flow, it is an alpha blocker specific to the prostate. It will lead to retrograde ejaculation though.
 
Littleguy

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Two weeks just isn't enough time to blow the prostate up with anything, at least enough to cause flow issues, no lit to support it. My guess with a lot of the androgen related, rapid response is more a CNS or PNS issue that leads to pelvic floor dysfunction. Try flomax and see if that helps with flow, it is an alpha blocker specific to the prostate. It will lead to retrograde ejaculation though.
I have some but never tried it.......... thanks
 
Littleguy

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OK getting shot in the groin should absolutely be considered a relevant factor.

1 250 mg Sustanon ampoule weekly? How long have you been on the A) 250 mg (presumably) Sustanon, and B) trenbolone enanthate?

Do you monitor PSA (prostate-specific antigen)?

Do you take any SSRIs?
I take nothing and no monitoring of PSA, I have read that can be misleading etc anyway.
yes 1 HG sustanon and 200mg ot Tren E, I assure you it works.
Others on here have the Prostate issues within 2 week period, Tommy G posted up above that he reacts quickly to this as well.
 
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Two weeks just isn't enough time to blow the prostate up with anything, at least enough to cause flow issues, no lit to support it. My guess with a lot of the androgen related, rapid response is more a CNS or PNS issue that leads to pelvic floor dysfunction
Interesting. Where can I go to learn more about this. Whenever I take tren or mast or proviron, my prostate seems to be affected almost immediately. I'm interested in better understanding what you think may be the issue.
 
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