- Nov 1, 2012
While our boys are figuring out if they are girls China’s masculining their boys and creating super soldiers
That's a fair point I guess. I have zero issue with people doing what they want with their body. My stance is more about the idea of fair competition and etc in regards to sports. Obviously, other concerns like locker rooms and bathrooms and etc is another hot topic. I think this also sets women's sports back also with now having to deal with this issue.But if they wait until they’re adults; they won’t cut off that peak when they start developing themselves as boys and if they get the operation as an adult, they will wind up being freaks because they passed that age of adolescence and now have full male hormones at the age. I’m not sticking up for them; I think it’s fuct up; but that is the argument they’ll throw at you.
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BB, I read an article or two on this...If I'm not mistaking, they are using genetic modification to achieve this goal...Can u elaborate on what u know to be fact in regards to this...This is another fascinating subject for me...While our boys are figuring out if they are girls China’s masculining their boys and creating super soldiers
Of course those on the left who just love science should love this. I teach this common sense in a college exercise physiology class about gender difference:but here we go....I can't see the "honor" in this...Doesn't seem fair/right for transgender male's to be able to compete against women....What's your thoughts on it?...
.Transgender MMA fighter Fallon Fox, who supposedly showed courage in beating up women, might soon return to the ring.www.westernjournal.com
Short re-cap...If a man matures before he/she transitions into a shim, then the person still retains the advantage of a man...Ex. Fast-twitch muscles fibers, etc....Is this close!...Thanx for that article...I will read later...Abstract was enough tho...OF COURSE LI
Of course those on the left who just love science should love this. I teach this common sense in a college exercise physiology class about gender difference:
Now, there is the other thing about women transitioning to men, they take testosterone injections. Most amateur sports are drug tested and no organization in the world allows for high TE levels according to biological gender. They also do not allow the use of anabolic steroids. But somehow we make an exception for trannies? What happened to the level playing field people like WADA claim they are fighting for?
- Men produce 570% more testosterone than women do, leading to major differences between the sexes in muscle complexion, bone thickness, skeletal muscle mass, and red blood cell count.
- Women produce more estrogen than men do, which leads to higher body fat and less lean muscle. Women produce more progesterone. Progesterone is catabolic, meaning it burns fat and muscle tissue.
- Men produce more Type Two muscle fibers (fast-twitch muscles) than they do Type One muscle fibers (slow-twitch),which gives men more power than women and helps make men stronger and faster. Women produce an equal amount of Type One and Type Two, which helps women have more endurance and quicker recovery times.
- Wee can also add the Q angle of the hips is women is much greater than that of men meaning wen are much stronger in the hip flexors and can generate much more power. I always ask my students why women have a bigger Q angle.........of course for child bearing.
Here is a great scientific paper for all the liberals who think this is OK who tell us to trust science.
Knox T, Anderson LC, Heather A Transwomen in elite sport: scientific and ethical considerations. Journal of Medical Ethics 2019;45:395-403.
The inclusion of elite transwomen athletes in sport is controversial. The recent International Olympic Committee (IOC) (2015) guidelines allow transwomen to compete in the women’s division if (amongst other things) their testosterone is held below 10 nmol/L. This is significantly higher than that of cis-women. Science demonstrates that high testosterone and other male physiology provides a performance advantage in sport suggesting that transwomen retain some of that advantage. To determine whether the advantage is unfair necessitates an ethical analysis of the principles of inclusion and fairness. Particularly important is whether the advantage held by transwomen is a tolerable or intolerable unfairness. We conclude that the advantage to transwomen afforded by the IOC guidelines is an intolerable unfairness. This does not mean transwomen should be excluded from elite sport but that the existing male/female categories in sport should be abandoned in favour of a more nuanced approach satisfying both inclusion and fairness.
The other consideration I have is WHERE are the feminist groups that claim to be fighting for the rights of women? The little high school senior who won a state wrestling championship in Texas 2 years in a row did so as a woman transitioning to a man competing against women. How many real women lost out of a college scholarship because they got beat by a women transitioning to a man who was using anabolic steroids to give the appearance of a man. Why not just let all women use steroids? Why are feminists not fighting mad over this? The reason why this woman was not made to compete against guys like she claims to be is the UIL referee's said they will not judge meets with women wrestling men. Of course this decision was because of Title 9 and forced schools to have both boys and girls meets. At least someone is using some common sense.
Again, thank you for the info, my friend!...Just the fast-twitch fibers fact ALONE, gives the trangender shim an unfair advantage...Those fibers as was pointed out, translate into more power for the individual!...I wonder if those two are transgender/have some kind of hidden interest in transgender identity?...Let me add this tooL
According to the NCAA’s handbook: “According to medical experts on this issue, the assumption that a transgender woman competing on a women’s team would have a competitive advantage outside the range of performance and competitive advantage or disadvantage that already exists among female athletes is not supported by evidence” REALLY, I found several scientific paper saying the opposite.'
Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., wrote in a letter to USA Powerlifting that “the myth that trans women have a ‘direct competitive advantage’ is not supported by medical science.” Sunu Chandy of the National Women’s Law Center stated, “There’s no research to support the claim that allowing trans athletes to play on teams that fit their gender identity will create a competitive imbalance.” Neither of these two have any clue ab out human anatomy or human physiology.
Maybe these two rocket scientist and the NCAA should review the "evidence."
- When does an advantage become unfair? Empirical and normative concerns in Semenya ’s case
Silvia Camporesi, Journal of Medical Ethics, 2019
- Caster Semenya, athlete classification, and fair equality of opportunity in sport
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Rebecca M Jordan-Young et al., BMJ: British Medical Journal, 2014
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Nicolai Topstad Borgen, British Journal of Sports Medicine, 2019
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Melanie Joy Newbould, Journal of Medical Ethics, 2015
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Kaye N Ballantyne et al., British Journal of Sports Medicine, 2011
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J C Reeser, British Journal of Sports Medicine, 2005
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Stéphane Bermon et al., British Journal of Sports Medicine, 2017
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Timothy A Roberts et al., British Journal of Sports Medicine, 2020
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That's a fair point I guess. I have zero issue with people doing what they want with their body. My stance is more about the idea of fair competition and etc in regards to sports. Obviously, other concerns like locker rooms and bathrooms and etc is another hot topic. I think this also sets women's sports back also with now having to deal with this issue.