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Tomas Payne

Tomas Payne

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1cc 400mg T400 is a little more than trt..... I cruise at 200mg which is also not trt.

A deload week is always a viable option, especially if you are getting sore and not able to recover. Is the pain more overuse or do you think possible injury
i am not taking anything right now. I am going to start but haven't pict it up yet. I was doing cardio today and felt vary lethargic. I kind of know why but the injury aggrevations have come as my trainer it reaquainting himself with me; i think he assumes I was still on cycle of something.
 
Tomas Payne

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Agreed. 400 mg of test a week is more than double my TRT. In fact, it is more test than I have taken on any blast in the last five years.

You may need a deload based off the lack of motivation, but the back and rib cage it sounds more like an injury to me. The good thing is that it would be a minor injury, because if it wasn't you would definitely know in that region. It would be pretty difficult to lift at all. Might want to throw the kitchen sink at it since it has been nagging you for a couple weeks, i.e. anti-inflammatories, red light therapy, deep tissue massage, heating pad (often), chiropractor and a little rest.
i started using the lumbar roller on my front right side and the soreness has weaned off and has gotten better. I am not taking any test nor gear; 5 months off.
 
Tomas Payne

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Workout (<#>=(sets), S=superset, H=hyperset, CB=cattle bells, B= banded, BO=bentover, DB=dumbbell, DL= dead lifts GM=Good mornings, < = linking with previous)
  1. legs
    • single leg ext/double leg ext Super(15/50X40/45,15/50X40/45,15/50X40/45,15/50X40/45)
    • (4H) > Bulgarian split lunge (10X50,10X50, 10X50,10X50)
    • laying leg-curls (10X65,10X65,10X65,10X65)
    • (4S) < outer quad centric-lunge (10X25,10X25,10X25,10X25)
    • seated leg curls (12X70,12X70,12X70,12X70)
    • (4H) < sissy squats (8,8,8,8)
    • inner adductors (15x120,15x120, 15x120,15x120)
    • (4S) < outer adductors (15x130,15x130, 15x130,20x130)
 
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i am not taking anything right now. I am going to start but haven't pict it up yet. I was doing cardio today and felt vary lethargic. I kind of know why but the injury aggrevations have come as my trainer it reaquainting himself with me; i think he assumes I was still on cycle of something.
Rest and heal up, look into PT work.
 
Tomas Payne

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Workout (<#>=(sets), S=superset, H=hyperset, EH=eccentric hooks, CB=cattle bells, DS=Drop-set B= banded, E/C=eccentric/concentric, EH=eccentric hooks, DB=dumbbell, BO=bentover < = linking with previous)
  1. Chest
    • flat press (Rounder 1;inner/middle/outer-8E/CX145EH/95, 8E/CX145EH/95,8X145EH/95) (Round 2;inner/middle/outer), (Rounder 2;inner/middle/outer-4E/8CX155EH/95,4E/8CX155EH/95, 4E/8CX155EH/95)
    • (3S) < lateral motion rotator cuff (10X5, 10X10,10X10,10X10)
    • (3S) < vert. motion rotator cuff (10X5,10X10, 10X10,10X10)
    • narrow pullovers (10X70,10X70, 10X70,10X70)
    • (4S) < vert. plate press (8X25,8X25, 8X25,8X25)
 
Jayne Scott

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Workout (<#>=(sets), S=superset, H=hyperset, EH=eccentric hooks, CB=cattle bells, DS=Drop-set B= banded, E/C=eccentric/concentric, EH=eccentric hooks, DB=dumbbell, BO=bentover < = linking with previous)
  1. Chest
    • flat press (Rounder 1;inner/middle/outer-8E/CX145EH/95, 8E/CX145EH/95,8X145EH/95) (Round 2;inner/middle/outer), (Rounder 2;inner/middle/outer-4E/8CX155EH/95,4E/8CX155EH/95, 4E/8CX155EH/95)
    • (3S) < lateral motion rotator cuff (10X5, 10X10,10X10,10X10)
    • (3S) < vert. motion rotator cuff (10X5,10X10, 10X10,10X10)
    • narrow pullovers (10X70,10X70, 10X70,10X70)
    • (4S) < vert. plate press (8X25,8X25, 8X25,8X25)
Awesome stuff, as always.
 
Tomas Payne

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Rest and heal up, look into PT work.

Gonna have a Convo with trainer tonight about the training. I shouldn’t be so worn out and sore that I don’t want to go to the gym and getting these small injuries.


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Tomas Payne

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After discussing my training issues, my coach and I decided to revise training to linear and basic intensity training. Thanks to the help of some forum members for helping bring this to discussion and helping me address it.

Workout (<#>=(sets), S=superset, H=hyperset, EH=eccentric hooks, CB=cattle bells, DS=Drop-set B= banded, E/C=eccentric/concentric, EH=eccentric hooks, DB=dumbbell, BO=bentover < = linking with previous)
  1. Linear Training & Basic Fundamental movement​

    • BO row 25x20, 30x20, 35x20
    • < DB Ski 20x15, 25x15, 30x15
    • (3H) << Rear felt fly 20x15, 25x15, 30x15
    • (3) 3-4 Sec Eccentric BO row 12x55, 12x55, 12x55
    • Supported modified pull-ups 21, 25
    • (2S) 1 minutes close-grip static pull
    • (1) Smith machine rack pulls dropset 16/14/12/10X225
    • Banded lat pull 15,15
    • (2S) < Static lat hold 30s,30s
 
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genetic freak

genetic freak

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It could be that you are doing a lot of intensity training and over training. I just don't know how you train. I mean, you can do supersets without taxing yourself too much or you can really get into supersets that wipe you out. The level of intensity I put into each exercise I couldn't do it. I would be overtrained in a couple weeks.

Starting up some test should help. I don't think you need 400 mg a week. I would shoot for more of a TRT dose at 200 mg a week or even 250 mg a week and see how that goes. If it is prop you should start feeling better fairly quickly, enth and cyp will take longer, but I prefer them for TRT.
 
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