Toxic pesticide advised as weight loss supplement kills bodybuilder

[Hittin]

No, I had an old stockpile of P's stuff from a few years ago that I had used. It was powder, not crystal.

Interesting...I tried the crystal and it sucked imo. It was also the only stuff I tried.

 

[IronCore]

Did you use "D"'s DNP? I would take that stuff at 200mg's a day with my current diet and cardio right now if I knew it would shed just 2% of BF.

I did... he adds other stuff to it to combat the lethargy... its works well for a few hours... in the end... the DNP wins and you sleep like a sweaty baby.

 

[Hittin]

I did... he adds other stuff to it to combat the lethargy... its works well for a few hours... in the end... the DNP wins and you sleep like a sweaty baby.

Never did much for me at all. Made me feel like crap sometimes but never anything tangible and I had diet and cardio on point.

 

[dr jim]

Did you use "D"'s DNP? I would take that stuff at 200mg's a day with my current diet and cardio right now if I knew it would shed just 2% of BF.

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Well how about that, the provisional RECOMMENDATION I predicted would come!

Yep but it must be "D" DNP to be GTG!

I tell you what can ANYONE on TID provide me with an advantage to using this junk over existing weight loss regimes?

Nope, but for some reason certain people feel compelled to PUSH it's "safe" use. Usually when that occurs a VESTED INTEREST is the underlying motivation, such as MONEY!

Regs
Jim

 

[Cabo Jo]

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Well how about that, the provisional RECOMMENDATION I predicted would come!

Yep but it must be "D" DNP to be GTG!

I tell you what can ANYONE on TID provide me with an advantage to using this junk over existing weight loss regimes?

Nope, but for some reason certain people feel compelled to PUSH it's "safe" use. Usually when that occurs a VESTED INTEREST is the underlying motivation, such as MONEY!

Regs
Jim

there's no vested interest,i know hittin he's a good friend and wouldn't do that.

btw:I think dnp sucks wouldn't touch it for what it's worth.

 

[Lizard King]

There is no vested interest, the guy I mentioned hasn't been around in 3 years or so, I happen to buy enough to last a while. They refer to D as there used to be 2 major well know suppliers, D and P (no pun intended) and that is how they had been referred to since I have been on the boards.

I'll go take Hydroxycut next time and get better results that DNP. At least with DNP I know what is in it, yes poison, pesticide, whatever you like to call it, with these non-FDA supps, who the hell knows what is in it (shit, could be DNP for all I know).

 

[dr jim]

There is no vested interest, the guy I mentioned hasn't been around in 3 years or so, I happen to buy enough to last a while. They refer to D as there used to be 2 major well know suppliers, D and P (no pun intended) and that is how they had been referred to since I have been on the boards.

I'll go take Hydroxycut next time and get better results that DNP. At least with DNP I know what is in it, yes poison, pesticide, whatever you like to call it, with these non-FDA supps, who the hell knows what is in it (shit, could be DNP for all I know).

LK I was referring to no one per say, especially you! It's just my observation almost every time a DNP discussion arises it evolves into some notion this stuff can be used safely and without side effects.

That is just not true because any dose which "works" will cause adverse effects since that's is inherent in DNPs MOA.

Respects
Jim

 

[Lizard King]

I agree, everything has it's adverse effects, hence, I cannot take tren if I want to stay married, yet, it is an amazing compound. It's the risk/reward benefit as with doing any drug or "drug". Everything has a side, the magnitude of the side is dependent on many variables pertaining to each individual. With DNP, I wouldn't think of doing some of the doses I have seen people do, I tested my own baseline at 100mg every 3 - 4 days to see MY tolerance of the substance and have used it effectively since. I did the same thing when I started out on AAS. I didn't listen to the "Hey dude, do a gram a week and you will be huge" I tried to see what would work for me.

 

[Hittin]

there's no vested interest,i know hittin he's a good friend and wouldn't do that.

btw:I think dnp sucks wouldn't touch it for what it's worth.

I get the impression jim just like to respond. Recommendation? Had the dude even read what I wrote he would have noted I don't recommend it to anyone else and the stuff I took from D didn't help me at all. That's some recomendation. Safe vs. Safer...there is a distinction I noted a few posts before. I do have a vested interest in being open and honest and discussing our experiences, that's what boards like these are for. To try to scare people into not using DNP doesn't work, look around and see how many of us are alive healthy and tried DNP. When someone does decide to take DNP they can be more informed as to the negatives and positives of taking it. Yes, there are positives as many here have mentioned. Everyone's risk tolerance is different and that's the key here. It's not just with DNP but Halo, Insulin, Tren, EPO...tried them all except Halo (that's coming next) but always looked at thread like this as valuable resources to scour good information from. Thanks Cabo!

 

[Hittin]

LK I was referring to no one per say, especially you! It's just my observation almost every time a DNP discussion arises it evolves into some notion this stuff can be used safely and without side effects.

That is just not true because any dose which "works" will cause adverse effects since that's is inherent in DNPs MOA.

Respects
Jim

It can be used safer...not sure who said it was safe to use. Safer meaning lowest dosage for desired results that include risk yet still wouldn't be classified as "safe" just safer. If you read a few posts back I think I even went out of my way to interject using the word safer for one of our respected members.

 

[dr jim]

Never used Albuterol. So you are saying its similar without side effects of clen dr jim?

It can be used safer...not sure who said it was safe to use. Safer meaning lowest dosage for desired results that include risk yet still wouldn't be classified as "safe" just safer. If you read a few posts back I think I even went out of my way to interject using the word safer for one of our respected members.

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That's fine but that's where you, I and a few others differ. Having personally evaluated patients who have suffered the consequences of DNP use, ONE WHO DIED, as a REGISTERED POISON there is no SAFE OR SAFER DOSE!


But apparently some don't believe this shit is toxic, so be it!

Jim

 

[Hittin]

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That's fine but that's where you, I and a few others differ. Having personally evaluated patients who have suffered the consequences of DNP use, ONE WHO DIED, as a REGISTERED POISON there is no SAFE OR SAFER DOSE!


But apparently some don't believe this shit is toxic, so be it!

Jim

I will try to focus on what we agree on: Yes it's toxic, yes it can kill you, we both don't recommend other people take it, there are safer ways to lose weight. What we both agree on describes many drugs taken by BB's, PL's and gym rats yet we still mentor others on ways to use it so they don't kill themselves whie advising them on many if not all the factors good and bad to consider.