Well, it's definitely not Joe. Watch how he is treated and ignored in this clip below when Obama gets all and more attention than he does. Obama actually shuns him off.....our CURRENT president of the US. Pretty pathetic. I'm not sayin Obama is running the country, maybe he has a part in it, I don't know, but i'd be more inclined to say he has more of a role behind the scenes than Joe does. Joe is a puppet.