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broski75

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May 4, 2011
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im running 900 mg test e 12 weeks
also running 600 mg deca 12 weeks
ran 50 mg of dbol for first 4 weeks e/d
now im thinking of adding 25 mg of winstrol e/d
oh yeah im in my sixth week and was thinking of running the winny for the rest of cycle

would like some feedback if possible from everyone

thank you
 
HisAngriness

HisAngriness

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what week are you on right now? i always liked the idea of winstrol at the end of a good cycle just to harden up or "dry out" if you will
 
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gentao

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May 16, 2011
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im still new at this, but wouldnt it be better to run deca along with winny to help lower the chance of joint pain?
 
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im still new at this, but wouldnt it be better to run deca along with winny to help lower the chance of joint pain?
The train of thought is there, gentao, but deca would make the visible effects of the winny (vascularity, striation, dryness) unnoticeable. And unless you cruise and blast, deca is a bitch to recover from. WARNING : THE FOLLOWING IS JUST MY OPINION AND SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS GOSPEL. I personally will never run deca because I believe that for a guy who wants to recover quickly and stave off TRT for as long as possible, deca cannot be included in cycles. I still have mixed feeling on NPP, but I haven't made my mind up completely on NPP.
 
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Like_a_Weed

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Jan 25, 2011
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Isnt npp deca?

I think you'll like the addition of winstrol. I love the stuff, only side effect for me was acne, bad on back and shoulders, when the winny stopped it started to fade immediately. Winny makes me strong, winny and deca should be perfect together, so is dbol and winny.
 
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Yes and no. Deca is referring to nandrolone decanoate and NPP is referring to nandrolone phenyl-propionate. Same hormone, different esters. This is why I haven't made my mind up on NPP yet, because while the nandrolone will still shut you down super-hard, the significantly shorter ester will allow for successful shorter cycles. Again, winny and deca are not perfect for each other because they do different things to the body in a visual sense. Can they be used together? Sure, if you have no interest in what winny is supposed to do visibly and only want it for the strength gains, but that isn't an ideal combo IMO. NPP and winny would be a better pair, but......
 
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soinkid

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Mar 14, 2011
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Personally I would quit the deca at week 10 and run the test for 2 more weeks. Also I'd wait 2 weeks and run winny the last six, just to let ur liver recover a little...
 
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Like_a_Weed

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Jan 25, 2011
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I may add winny towards the end of my npp run, the npp is not causing any water retention, I'm running alot of test too, no water. Prop + npp is delightful. Still not the strength I get from winny or dbol. My npp cycle is planned for 6 weeks. I agree on not using deca if recovery is a concern.
 
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...And unless you cruise and blast, deca is a bitch to recover from...
this is very true. i love the gains from the deca and the overall feeling of "well being" i had while on it but i couldnt keep my dick hard to save my life and for a level 81 porn star with tiger blood and Adonis DNA like myself thats just not cool. LMAO! in all seriousness though, it took TWICE as long to recover from my deca cycle than it did with any other compound i have run.
 
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broski75

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May 4, 2011
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well thank everyone for there opinions, and advice yes i had planned on quiting the deca after week 8, and then running the winny from 8 to 12. Once again thank you all for your input.
 
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Next time you prepare for a cycle, let the den help you plan it out. I'm not trying to come down on you when I say that this was a very poorly planned cycle. Deca for 8 weeks is like having sex for 30 seconds, not finishing, and then going to sleep. I'm not encouraging you to extend the deca by any means. I just think you'll have a much more successful cycle if you plan it out ahead of time and get advice from more experienced guys. Stick around and learn as much as possible. Once you've recovered from this cycle, you can begin planning your next one with our help.
 
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broski75

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May 4, 2011
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will do, i dont take any advice any one gives me as coming down on me at all. I by no means am a genuis, and any advice and planning anyone will give me to help me out is taken very greatfully. Once again thank everyone that chimed in.
 
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