T400 vs. SUS250

[genetic freak]

Old post, but I will bite. Sustanon absolutely needs to be pinned daily to get the advantage of all the esters. T400 can be pinned every 3 days and you are still good.

 

[tommyguns2]

Old post, but I will bite. Sustanon absolutely needs to be pinned daily to get the advantage of all the esters. T400 can be pinned every 3 days and you are still good.

I've recently become a fan of the ED pinning. Especially when doses are reasonable. Pinning 0.5mL or less oil in my tricep with a slin pin ED is easy peezy.

Recently heard Dr. Todd Lee on J3 podcast state that he sees many of his HRT clients with test levels of 1,500 ng/dl with just 20mg test cyp ED. He's also an advocate of the 20mg test and 10mg mast ED, but I think he specifies long esters. If pinning ED, I wouldn't think it would matter. I've never gotten mast E.

 

[Glycomann]

Old post, but I will bite. Sustanon absolutely needs to be pinned daily to get the advantage of all the esters. T400 can be pinned every 3 days and you are still good.

IDK brother. I was on 300 Sustanon and 250 Primo and tested close to the trough and test total was 1200 ng/dL. That's higher than on Mast with Test E at 250 mg/w, ~800 ng/dL inj once a week. I'm pretty sure the Primo pushed the test a little higher than normal by slowing aromatization but still it was a good cycle and convenient since I was inj once a week. You guys that might still be blasting away, maybe it's different for you guys.

 

[genetic freak]

I've recently become a fan of the ED pinning. Especially when doses are reasonable. Pinning 0.5mL or less oil in my tricep with a slin pin ED is easy peezy.

Recently heard Dr. Todd Lee on J3 podcast state that he sees many of his HRT clients with test levels of 1,500 ng/dl with just 20mg test cyp ED. He's also an advocate of the 20mg test and 10mg mast ED, but I think he specifies long esters. If pinning ED, I wouldn't think it would matter. I've never gotten mast E.

Yeah, Todd calls you an idiot if you use sustanon. Haha. He is a long ester only guy.

 

[genetic freak]

IDK brother. I was on 300 Sustanon and 250 Primo and tested close to the trough and test total was 1200 ng/dL. That's higher than on Mast with Test E at 250 mg/w, ~800 ng/dL inj once a week. I'm pretty sure the Primo pushed the test a little higher than normal by slowing aromatization but still it was a good cycle and convenient since I was inj once a week. You guys that might still be blasting away, maybe it's different for you guys.

You probably would have tested higher if you pinned daily. I hit 1700 on 300 sustanon a week pinning daily and I am not a hyper responder to test. At 200 mg a week of cyp, I am only in the 700's.

 

[genetic freak]

It also depends on the carrier oil. Viscosity significantly alters the half-life. Dr. Scott Stevenson was showing studies of castor oil extending the half-life of test cyp out to 21 days depending on injection site.

 

[tommyguns2]

Yeah, Todd calls you an idiot if you use sustanon. Haha. He is a long ester only guy.

Yeah, he’s a bit of a character. When I plot test prop and test cyp on steroid plotter with ED pinning, it’s pretty similar

 

[genetic freak]

Yeah, he’s a bit of a character. When I plot test prop and test cyp on steroid plotter with ED pinning, it’s pretty similar

He is autistic. So am I, so we both have that blunt style delivery. "Yeah, you could do that if you are an idiot," mentality.

I love steroid chart and use it a lot educate clients. If you really want to see how everyday pinning works vs. less frequent it is best to only do the chart for 4 weeks, so it spreads the chart out. Then you get to see the spikes and troughs better. Will set the chart up for the entire length of their cycle 16-20 weeks and it is nearly impossible to see the difference between daily and twice weekly pinning.

 

[nicky-b80]

Old post, but I will bite. Sustanon absolutely needs to be pinned daily to get the advantage of all the esters. T400 can be pinned every 3 days and you are still good.

Why would I want to pin sust 250 every day, thats 1.8grams of gear test, plus 250 decca, a week, im not a IFBB elite pal, not even elites do that much gear weekly unless they want a short career. Are you for real pal, youre giving stupid information out like that what could potentially damage some poor fker who has no clue what theyre doing.

 

[Heady Muscle]

It also depends on the carrier oil. Viscosity significantly alters the half-life. Dr. Scott Stevenson was showing studies of castor oil extending the half-life of test cyp out to 21 days depending on injection site.

This why a source on WCBB used used castor oil. Pinning was not fun. I believe he switched to MCT oil.

 

[Heady Muscle]

I like Sus, it hits my better than T 400. I have no idea why.

 

[tommyguns2]

Why would I want to pin sust 250 every day, thats 1.8grams of gear test, plus 250 decca, a week, im not a IFBB elite pal, not even elites do that much gear weekly unless they want a short career. Are you for real pal, youre giving stupid information out like that what could potentially damage some poor fker who has no clue what theyre doing.

He's not saying to pin 1CC of sust250 ED. Rather, he's saying take your desired weekly dose of Sust, let's say it was 500mg, and instead of pinning that 2x/week on M/Th, you divide that 500mg over 7 days (about 70-75mg pinned ED)