T/E ratio test question

Discussion in 'Testosterone Replacement therapy (TRT)' started by monsoon, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. monsoon

    monsoon Senior Bacon VIP

    Nov 1, 2010
    question, the T/E test is designed to detect exogenous test by measuring the ratio of testosterone to epitest correct?
    A TRT dose of 100-200mg per week would likely skew this?
    Would it matter if the dose is increased eg someone supplementing his prescribed dose?
  2. Warrior45

    Warrior45 TID Board Of Directors

    Nov 9, 2012
    1st question - correct, when I was in college the ratio had to test less than 6:1 to pass....that was over a decade ago though not sure if things have changed

    2nd- probably

    3rd-yes it will definitely make the ratio higher. Some guys used to actually inject epitest to try to keep ratio in range

    Why do you ask?
  3. monsoon

    monsoon Senior Bacon VIP

    Nov 1, 2010
    So, my friend's employer does drug testing that includes various AAS and a T/E ratio for testosterone. Testosterone is acceptable if the subject has a valid medical prescription. So, friend is going to clinic that provides cyp injection weekly but feels this is inadequate and wants to supplement.
    So ratio is going to be off already from "legit" test. The question is will the the ratio be thrown more where it will be obvious that he is supplementing?
    I do not know the answer so figured I would ask here.

    He has a list of other specific AAS that are tested for, there's plenty that aren't on the list. I figured that any of them would mess up the ratio and/or that other progrest bases would possibly test positive for nandrolone.
  4. BrotherIron

    BrotherIron TID Board Of Directors

    Mar 6, 2011
    Interesting that his employer is actually testing for those things.
  5. DieYoungStrong

    DieYoungStrong VIP Member

    May 27, 2013
    Is your friend going to be a LEO or something? I've never heard of any other normal job testing for AAS.
  6. prime

    prime TID Board Of Directors

    Dec 31, 2011
    I thought the T/E ratio test was not accurate years ago because some ethnic groups like Asians have different ratios than Caucasians. I read this like 10 years ago. Can anyone corroborate?

    I quickly found this but the original article I read was definitely ratio based.

  7. monsoon

    monsoon Senior Bacon VIP

    Nov 1, 2010
    He is a fireman. Apparently there was some sort of scandal several years ago with like half the department getting juice from one guy. He is on semi legit trt like I said. (IMO, he goes to one of those clinics that gives it to everyone)
    I was also curious about this for myself, so I thought I'd see if anyone here knew.
  8. The_Northman1522

    The_Northman1522 Member

    Jul 11, 2016
    I thought the t/e test was discredited for use across the spectrum.

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  9. Wallyd

    Wallyd VIP Member

    Dec 10, 2013
    LEO around my area don't even test for that.
  10. DieYoungStrong

    DieYoungStrong VIP Member

    May 27, 2013
    The few guys that I know in my area say the don't test, but someone can report you as being suspect for juicing, and they can test you.

    The fire dept in my city doesn't have any form of drug testing.
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