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gunslinger

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At some point next year I'm planning a cycle for pure strength. Likely going to run 12-14 weeks. Some have recommended superdrol, Tren etc. I don't like Deca at all. Was going to start with a base of test at 600-750mg. Any recommended goodies or doses? My first thought was Test/Tren/drol/dbol with the orals spaced out front to back and the tren at 200-300mg per week. Thoughts?

Side note: I have never used tren. Been cycling 1-2 cycles per year for around 11 years. Training 27 years. 42 years old. 5'9" 221 lbs. aprox 15-17% BF.


Any advice appreciated.
 
Lizard King

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I would suggest if you haven't done Tren before to do Tren A and start with 50mg/75mg ED or EOD to see how you fare on it. 750MG of Test is a great base, adding some drol and dbol will work but that is all a lot with the Tren imo.
 
gunslinger

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I would suggest if you haven't done Tren before to do Tren A and start with 50mg/75mg ED or EOD to see how you fare on it. 750MG of Test is a great base, adding some drol and dbol will work but that is all a lot with the Tren imo.
Typically I'll do a 5 week dbol kickstart at 25mg per day. I realize with the ace a kickstart shouldn't be needed. I never go crazy with the orals though. Even at 25mg per day after about 4 weeks the heart burn is almost unbearable. So 750 test, 300 tren and maybe some dbol sprinkles if I'm feeling frisky? Also I have the usual aromasin, nolva, and caber on hand. The plan was to take half a caber twice a week. Is that on point?
 
CFM

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LK's advice to run short ester Tren is the best advice. I'll add this: if you don't like Nandrolone, you're probably not going to like Tren, its best to run Ace and be able to 'get out quick" if you want to.

For me stacking those two orals was not a "I feel great/ I like this cycle", in fact those two of all the orals were never a feel good cycle for me.

You're 42 (as I once was) not 32, proceed with caution.
 
two_slug

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I agree with the guys about starting out with Tren Ace. I usually use Test P when using Tren A to make it easier on the pinning schedule.
I'd stay away from the orals if you can. I'm 10 yrs older than you but neither one of us are spring chickens. High doses of orals are for younger guys and their livers.
 
Gms585

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Test
Tren
Dbol
Test susp
Halo
If you can get em cheque drops

That's what the powerlifters n strongman I know take.
Oh and gh buts that's for recovery, joints and tendons
 
gunslinger

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I wasn't really expecting to feel great on this cycle. Thats what the Test/EQ/Dbol/Proviron cycle is for. I just want to blast through some personal sticking points. Get as strong as I can while I can. As for cheque drops I never tried them but I did try Halo once....never again! Felt like I had the flu and I could barely even get to the gym.
 
Determined

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I’ve always wanted to try Cheque drops, test Tren and Anadrol stacked have always made me the strongest but I haven’t lifted for strictly strength in years.
 
Gms585

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I’ve always wanted to try Cheque drops, test Tren and Anadrol stacked have always made me the strongest but I haven’t lifted for strictly strength in years.

Anadrol on the very short list of shit I've not tried.
 
gunslinger

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How long would you run the tren? I have heard around 8 weeks. The whole cycle was gonna be 12-14
 
Mike_RN

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NPP is so different than DECA for me (and many others). I also don't do well with Deca but have insane strempfs on this Mon/Wed/Fri protocol.

100-150mg NPP
250-300 Test Cyp

Chew up 20-30mg of Dbol 1 hour preworkout only on training days.

I'm 48 so Drol is just too much for me (HTN and Nosebleeds). I used to use 50mg of Drol with this same injectables split 25mg Preworkout and 25mg pre-bed.
 
BrotherIron

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Just remember that Tren will hurt your cardio so your BJJ will take a hit.
 
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