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Still on TRT...latest blood work

BovaJP

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OK, got bloods pulled 2 more times since June. Here are results.



8/21/20 bloods:
Test: COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL W/EGFR
Glucose: 96 (normal, range=65-99mg/dL)
UREA NITROGEN (BUN): 23 (NORMAL, range=7-25 mg/dL)
CREATININE= 0.97 (NORMAL, range= 0.50-1.05 mg/dL)
eGFR. NON-AFR. AMERICAN= 68 (NORMAL, range= > OR = 60 mL/min/1.73m2)
BUN/CREATININE RATIO= NOT APPLICABLE (range= 6-22 (calc))
SODIUM= 139 (NORMAL, range= 135-146 mmol/L)
POTASSIUM= 4.2 (NORMAL, range= 3.5-5.3 mmol/L)
CHLORIDE= 100 (NORMAL, range= 98-110 mmol/L)
CARBON DIOXIDE= 30 (NORMAL, range= 20-32 mmol/L)
CALCIUM= 9.7 (NORMAL, range= 8.6-10.4 mg/dL)
PROTEIN, TOTAL= 7 (NORMAL, range 6.1-8.1 g/dL)
ALBUMIN= 4.6 (NORMAL, range= 3.6-5.1 g/dL)
GLOBULIN= 2.4 (NORMAL, range= 1.9-3.7 g/dL (calc))
ALBUMIN/GLOBULIN RATIO= 1.9 (NORMAL, range= 1.0-2.5 (calc))
BILIRUBIN, TOTAL= 0.8 (NORMAL, range= 0.2-1.2 mg/dL)
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE= 56 (NORMAL, range= 37-153 U/L)
AST= 21 (NORMAL, range= 10-35 U/L)
ALT= 26 (NORMAL, range= 6-29 U/L)
Testosterone, Total=144 ng/dL (HIGH, range=8-48)
Estradiol=20 pg/mL (normal range for postmenopausal=<6.0-54.7)
FSH=112.6 mIU/mL (normal range for postmenopausal=25.8-134.8)
LH=48.4 (NORMAL, range: Postmenopausal 10.0-54.7)

CBC (INCLUDES DIFF/PLT)
WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT= 5.3 NORMAL 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL
RED BLOOD CELL COUNT =4.93 NORMAL 3.80-5.10 Million/uL
HEMOGLOBIN =15.6 HIGH 11.7-15.5 g/dL
HEMATOCRIT =46.0 HIGH 35.0-45.0 %
MCV= 93.3 NORMAL 80.0-100.0 fL
MCH= 31.6 NORMAL 27.0-33.0 pg
MCHC= 33.9 NORMAL 32.0-36.0 g/dL
RDW =13.1 NORMAL 11.0-15.0 %
PLATELET COUNT= 238 NORMAL 140-400 Thousand/uL
MPV= 11.6 NORMAL 7.5-12.5 fL
ABSOLUTE NEUTROPHILS= 2783 NORMAL 1500-7800 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR NORMAL= 0-750 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE METAMYELOCYTES= DNR NORMAL =0 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE MYELOCYTES= DNR NORMAL 0 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE PROMYELOCYTES= DNR NORMAL 0 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE LYMPHOCYTES =1887 NORMAL 850-3900 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES =456 NORMAL 200-950 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE EOSINOPHILS= 143 NORMAL 15-500 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE BASOPHILS= 32 NORMAL 0-200 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE BLASTS =DNR NORMAL 0 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE NUCLEATED RBC DNR NORMAL 0 cells/uL
NEUTROPHILS= 52.5 NORMAL %
BAND NEUTROPHILS =DNR NORMAL %
METAMYELOCYTES= DNR NORMAL %
MYELOCYTES= DNR NORMAL %
PROMYELOCYTES= DNR NORMAL %
LYMPHOCYTES =35.6 NORMAL %
REACTIVE LYMPHOCYTES DNR NORMAL 0-10 %
MONOCYTES= 8.6 NORMAL %
EOSINOPHILS =2.7 NORMAL %
BASOPHILS =0.6 NORMAL %
BLASTS= DNR NORMAL %
NUCLEATED RBC DNR NORMAL 0 /100 WBC

LIPID PANEL WITH RATIOS:
CHOLESTEROL, TOTAL= 196 (NORMAL, range: <200 mg/dL)
HDL CHOLESTEROL= 61 (NORMAL, range=> OR = 50 mg/dL)
TRIGLYCERIDES: 72 (NORMAL, range= <150 mg/dL)
LDL-CHOLESTEROL: 119 (HIGH, range= mg/dL (calc))
CHOL/HDLC RATIO= 3.2 (NORMAL, range= <5.0 (calc))
LDL/HDL RATIO= 3.9 (NORMAL (calc))
NON HDL CHOLESTEROL= 135 (HIGH, range= <130 mg/dL (calc))



7/17/20 bloods:
Test: COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL W/EGFR
Glucose: 84 (normal, range=65-99mg/dL)
UREA NITROGEN (BUN): 27 (HIGH, range=7-25 mg/dL)
CREATININE= 0.89 (NORMAL, range= 0.50-1.05 mg/dL)
eGFR. NON-AFR. AMERICAN= 76 (NORMAL, range= > OR = 60 mL/min/1.73m2)
BUN/CREATININE RATIO= 30 (HIGH, range= 6-22 (calc))
SODIUM= 136 (NORMAL, range= 135-146 mmol/L)
POTASSIUM= 4.4 (NORMAL, range= 3.5-5.3 mmol/L)
CHLORIDE= 101 (NORMAL, range= 98-110 mmol/L)
CARBON DIOXIDE= 29 (NORMAL, range= 20-32 mmol/L)
CALCIUM= 9.4 (NORMAL, range= 8.6-10.4 mg/dL)
PROTEIN, TOTAL= 6.3 (NORMAL, range 6.1-8.1 g/dL)
ALBUMIN= 4.0 (NORMAL, range= 3.6-5.1 g/dL)
GLOBULIN= 2.3 (NORMAL, range= 1.9-3.7 g/dL (calc))
ALBUMIN/GLOBULIN RATIO= 1.7 (NORMAL, range= 1.0-2.5 (calc))
BILIRUBIN, TOTAL= 0.7 (NORMAL, range= 0.2-1.2 mg/dL)
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE= 42 (NORMAL, range= 37-153 U/L)
AST= 19 (NORMAL, range= 10-35 U/L)
ALT= 31 (HIGH, range= 6-29 U/L)
LIPID PANEL WITH RATIOS:
CHOLESTEROL, TOTAL= 172 (NORMAL, range: <200 mg/dL)
HDL CHOLESTEROL= 32 (LOW , range=> OR = 50 mg/dL)
TRIGLYCERIDES: 64 (NORMAL, range= <150 mg/dL)
LDL-CHOLESTEROL: 124 (HIGH, range= mg/dL (calc))
CHOL/HDLC RATIO= 5.4 (HIGH, range= <5.0 (calc))
LDL/HDL RATIO= 3.9 (NORMAL (calc))
NON HDL CHOLESTEROL= 140 (HIGH, range= <130 mg/dL (calc))
GGT= 8 (NORMAL, range= 3-70 U/L)
IRON, TOTAL= 123 (NORMAL, range= 45-160 mcg/dL)
LD =129 (NORMAL, range= 120-250 U/L)
PHOSPHATE (AS PHOSPHORUS)=4.1 (NORMAL, range= 2.5-4.5 mg/dL)
URIC ACID= 5.5 (NORMAL, range= 2.5-7.0 mg/dL)



Testosterone, Serum=122 ng/dL (normal range=8-48)
Free Testosterone(Direct)=0.9 pg/mL (normal range=0.0-4.2)
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum=76.5 nmol/L (normal range=24.6-122.0)
TSH=3.340 uIU/mL (normal range=0.450-4.500)
FSH, Serum=53.8 mIU/mL (normal range for postmenopausal=25.8-134.8)
Estradiol=33.0 pg/mL (normal range for postmenopausal=<6.0-54.7)
Thyroxine (T4)=7.1 ug/dL (normal range=4.5-12.0)
Triiodothyronine (T3)=118 ng/dL (normal range=71-180)
Progesterone=<0.1 ng/mL (doc said it was low) (postmenopausal range=0.0-0.1)
Triiodothyronine (T3),Free=3.4 pg/mL (normal range 2.0-4.4)



Previous Bloods from:
March, 2019:
Testosterone, Serum=122 ng/dL (normal range=8-48); Doc said it was good; paperwork said it was high lol.
Free Testosterone(Direct)=0.9 pg/mL (normal range=0.0-4.2)
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum=76.5 nmol/L (normal range=24.6-122.0)
TSH=3.340 uIU/mL (normal range=0.450-4.500)
FSH, Serum=53.8 mIU/mL (normal range for postmenopausal=25.8-134.8)
Estradiol=33.0 pg/mL (normal range for postmenopausal=<6.0-54.7)
Thyroxine (T4)=7.1 ug/dL (normal range=4.5-12.0)
Triiodothyronine (T3)=118 ng/dL (normal range=71-180)
Progesterone=<0.1 ng/mL (doc said it was low) (postmenopausal range=0.0-0.1)
Triiodothyronine (T3),Free=3.4 pg/mL (normal range 2.0-4.4)

November, 2019:
Testosterone, Serum=201 ng/dL (normal range=8-48); Doc said it was good; paperwork said it was high lol.
Free Testosterone(Direct)=2.6 pg/mL (normal range=0.0-4.2)
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum=58.0 nmol/L (normal range=24.6-122.0)
TSH=3.340 uIU/mL (normal range=2.320-4.500)
FSH, Serum=111.3 mIU/mL (normal range for postmenopausal=25.8-134.8)
Estradiol=<5.0 pg/mL (normal range for postmenopausal=<6.0-54.7)
Thyroxine (T4)=8.1 ug/dL (normal range=4.5-12.0)
Triiodothyronine (T3)=118 ng/dL (normal range=71-180)
Progesterone=0.2 ng/mL (doc said it was ok) (postmenopausal range=0.0-0.1)
Triiodothyronine (T3),Free=3.0 pg/mL (normal range 2.0-4.4)

June 2020:
TestT+TestF+SHBG
Testosterone, Serum: 104 - High (ref range: 3ng/dl - 41ng/dl)
Free Testosterone(Direct): 6.6 - High (ref range: 0.0pg/mL - 4.2 pg/mL)
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum: 12.8-Low (ref range: 17.3 nmol/L - 125.0 nmol/L
FSH, Serum
FSH: 84.1 (ref range: Postmenopausal 25.8 - 134.8)
Estradiol: 10.6 (ref range: Postmenopausal <6.0 - 54.7)
Progesterone: <0.1 (ref range: Postmenopausal 0.0 - 0.1)
 
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Thanks for all this Bova. I had forgotten some of this since June, probably cause I was short-sighted enough to think female bodybuilding has limited relevance to male, including, in this case, what blood work tells us. With your generous supply of data, plus guest spots from Mike and Wilson6, I learned a thing or two.
 
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Recent labs look fine in my non medical opinion. Increased Hb/HCT is from T, if HCT gets > 51% donate blood. Free T is a function of SHBG, when on an C-17oral or SARM it will drop SHBG and increased free T boosting the effects of a given dose of HRT (T), and decrease HDL. LDL and non-HDL CHOL are a little elevated. Remember if you run deca or NPP, make sure you use LC/MS/MS assay for testosterone, the nandrolone will cross-react and elevated the total. The free portion is still a standard assay so expect that to be elevated even in the presence of a lower total T and normal SHBG. I've even heard of masteron cross-reacting. Always use LC/MS/MS for total T, not the standard assay. If you're not on an oral or SARM you could probably take your total T (HRT) up since most of it is being bound and depending on androgenic sides from DHT. Finasteride (1.25 - 2.5 mg/d) can keep DHT very low with HRT (T) in women, obviously blood donation or pregnancy is a big contraindication to FIN. In other words, a total of 104 with a free of 6.6 is about 6.3% free. A total of 122 with a free of 0.9 is only 0.7% free. You could in theory have a total of 366 and still have a free of only 2.7. The question is, without FIN what would happen to DHT, you'd have to test that and also assess the sides. When measuring DHT also use the LC/MS/MS method.
 
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How does a women get TRT? I apologize for my naivety on this. Thanks
 
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How does a women get TRT? I apologize for my naivety on this. Thanks

@Heady Muscle , a woman can get TRT if said blood work is proved to be indicative of that treatment. By seeking out a doctor that specializes in hormone treatments. I have a doctor that go to that prescribes mine and we do blood work every 6 mos to monitor. For me, before TRT, my test level was at a "6" and now it is at "144" and I feel much better. Hope this helps.
 
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@Heady Muscle , a woman can get TRT if said blood work is proved to be indicative of that treatment. By seeking out a doctor that specializes in hormone treatments. I have a doctor that go to that prescribes mine and we do blood work every 6 mos to monitor. For me, before TRT, my test level was at a "6" and now it is at "144" and I feel much better. Hope this helps.
I really had no idea this was an option for women. Good to know and i am glad you shared this.

I will crawl back under my rock now.
 
BovaJP

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I really had no idea this was an option for women. Good to know and i am glad you shared this.

I will crawl back under my rock now.

HAHA, don't crawl anywhere!
Really, you didn't know? oh wow. Cool, glad i could edumucate you lol. It is key to get the right doc and/or educate yourself with do's/dont's etc. All the females i talk to (not bodybuilding), go to docs and their docs put them all these hormone drugs. I looked at my numbers and know about side effects, etc. I CHOSE at that time to only treat my low testosterone and the doc said that was fine. Even though i was low in all my hormone levels. Shoot i think some docs won't even subscribe testosterone to any female for any reason. So the key is to educate yourself going on (at least for the female). and I think a lot of females suffer from this, it is just undiagnosed.
 
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HAHA, don't crawl anywhere!
Really, you didn't know? oh wow. Cool, glad i could edumucate you lol. It is key to get the right doc and/or educate yourself with do's/dont's etc. All the females i talk to (not bodybuilding), go to docs and their docs put them all these hormone drugs. I looked at my numbers and know about side effects, etc. I CHOSE at that time to only treat my low testosterone and the doc said that was fine. Even though i was low in all my hormone levels. Shoot i think some docs won't even subscribe testosterone to any female for any reason. So the key is to educate yourself going on (at least for the female). and I think a lot of females suffer from this, it is just undiagnosed.
Alot of docs won't put guys on T for any reason these days, even with T that is pretty low. It is ridiculous.
 
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I really had no idea this was an option for women. Good to know and i am glad you shared this.

I will crawl back under my rock now.
Stay out from under the rock Heady. Most of the "age mgmt hormone centers" will prescribe T to women and you don't have to be rock bottom to get it prescribed. A few regular progressive docs will do it but they are a rare breed. The important thing to remember is, side effects vary considerably. Not life threatening sides, but the cosmetic sides. T is pretty safe in women (and men) outside of pregnancy. Some women can tolerate a fairly high dose without much in the way of sides, others cannot. The sides are also a personal issue relative to tolerance. Some women don't mind shaving a few more hairs, a little deeper voice and bigger more sensitive clit along with nuclear orgasms and libido, others freak out at the very thought of any of that even if they feel like superwoman on testosterone. Be informed and work with someone that knows what they are doing. The two most troublesome sides are acne and hair loss. The acne usually lessens over time even with continuing T or with conservative topical treatment, it works that way in FTM trans, the hair loss if you are genetically prone, that's the one that just won't quit. It is a curse and will probably get you in time regardless, the T , even just a little, can speed it up.
 
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Stay out from under the rock Heady. Most of the "age mgmt hormone centers" will prescribe T to women and you don't have to be rock bottom to get it prescribed. A few regular progressive docs will do it but they are a rare breed. The important thing to remember is, side effects vary considerably. Not life threatening sides, but the cosmetic sides. T is pretty safe in women (and men) outside of pregnancy. Some women can tolerate a fairly high dose without much in the way of sides, others cannot. The sides are also a personal issue relative to tolerance. Some women don't mind shaving a few more hairs, a little deeper voice and bigger more sensitive clit along with nuclear orgasms and libido, others freak out at the very thought of any of that even if they feel like superwoman on testosterone. Be informed and work with someone that knows what they are doing. The two most troublesome sides are acne and hair loss. The acne usually lessens over time even with continuing T or with conservative topical treatment, it works that way in FTM trans, the hair loss if you are genetically prone, that's the one that just won't quit. It is a curse and will probably get you in time regardless, the T , even just a little, can speed it up.

Another great post!!!...:)
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My wife likes her total T in the 250 ng/dL to 300 ng/dL range on trough. Lots of energy, feels great, trains super hard and horny as hell.


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