Sarms as alternative to TRT?

[Silly_Billy]

To pretext this, I'm not considering taking sarms permanently as a TRT alternative. I just have a question

If sarms were originally developed and/or studied as a being possible alternatives to TRT, why don't you hear about anyone taking them permanently (like TRT) and just disregarding their natural T production?

• Has anyone done this?
• What would happen if someone did?
• What would be the pros and cons to something like rad 140 over traditional TRT?

I know the screenshot from Wikipedia here talks about the lack of aromatization into estrogen being an important point but I don't understand the implications and/or repercussions of this, so I still don't really understand the answer to my question.

 

[monsoon]

See Kyzatrex thread

 

[Silly_Billy]

See Kyzatrex thread

I could be wrong but that isn't a sarm, that looks to be testosterone undecanoate

 

[monsoon]

You’re right I only read they marketing material
which seems to be flat out lies but not germane to this discussion

 

[Yano]

SARMS are chems that were generally not worth the bang for the buck meaning the risks out weigh the benefits. For the most part they are forgotten about trash that some "genius" found out he could market to the simple minded , no offense.

 

[jipped genes]

SARMS are chems that were generally not worth the bang for the buck meaning the risks out weigh the benefits. For the most part they are forgotten about trash that some "genius" found out he could market to the simple minded , no offense.

I love them brother. I have great results with fewer sides than winny or var. Are they as powerful? no but they work for me.

Can they be used for TRT? Man I don't know. Being they are selective in their effects, I get nothing like the feeling I get from test. They will help build muscle, but won't give you sex drive or mass. They will give you some strength and endurance. They can accelerate fat loss while sparing muscle but again. Test is king, there is a reason it is the gold standard of TRT.

 

[Yano]

I love them brother. I have great results with fewer sides than winny or var. Are they as powerful? no but they work for me.

Can they be used for TRT? Man I don't know. Being they are selective in their effects, I get nothing like the feeling I get from test. They will help build muscle, but won't give you sex drive or mass. They will give you some strength and endurance. They can accelerate fat loss while sparing muscle but again. Test is king, there is a reason it is the gold standard of TRT.

I tried before taking the plunge again so to speak and I never really got shit out of them damn it lol , I was willing to give em a go. RAD was the only thing that gave me a bit of a pump n look but like you mentioned it was weak at best. Tried MK as well , I got hungry as fuck for a couple of weeks then my hands went haywire , tingling and burning , took months for my thumb and one finger to go back to mostly normal.

The only nonSARM i do use from time to time and have had good results with is Cardarine I did run some SR, that shit is endurance in a bottle , I can blow off an hour on the stationary bike like its a walk to the fridge.

SR9009 the dosing was annoying as hell all day and its got shitty absorption.

 

[Silly_Billy]

SARMS are chems that were generally not worth the bang for the buck meaning the risks out weigh the benefits. For the most part they are forgotten about trash that some "genius" found out he could market to the simple minded , no offense.

No offense taken, I'd rather harsh truths than polite lies.
I'm only now getting interested in PED's because I found out I had lowish Testosterone for a 19 year old (351 total, 9.1 free)


(for context)
I'm just trying to research as much as possible to see if I could possibly cycle something sparingly until I'm old enough to go on TRT.

My philosophy on this is that it seems like my natural levels are already pretty fucked meaning I'll likely go on TRT regardless, so trying to nurture my natural T levels is pointless. My dad suggested I cycle the prohormone 1-Androsterone but from what I've researched that doesn't seem like the best idea. Even if 1-Andro is touted as being the least liver toxic prohormone, It still seems like sarms are a safer option to cycle, though that could just be clever marketing.

 

[Silly_Billy]

I tried before taking the plunge again so to speak and I never really got shit out of them damn it lol , I was willing to give em a go. RAD was the only thing that gave me a bit of a pump n look but like you mentioned it was weak at best. Tried MK as well , I got hungry as fuck for a couple of weeks then my hands went haywire , tingling and burning , took months for my thumb and one finger to go back to mostly normal.

The only nonSARM i do use from time to time and have had good results with is Cardarine I did run some SR, that shit is endurance in a bottle , I can blow off an hour on the stationary bike like its a walk to the fridge.

SR9009 the dosing was annoying as hell all day and its got shitty absorption.

Interesting, I've been holding onto a bottle of 300mg of Rad140 from science.bio and 50 pills of nolvadex for a while now but never took either of them.
I also tried cardarine since it seemed like it wouldn't have repercussions regarding my hormones but didn't notice anything, however I only cycled it for about 2 weeks.

 

[Silly_Billy]

I love them brother. I have great results with fewer sides than winny or var. Are they as powerful? no but they work for me.

Can they be used for TRT? Man I don't know. Being they are selective in their effects, I get nothing like the feeling I get from test. They will help build muscle, but won't give you sex drive or mass. They will give you some strength and endurance. They can accelerate fat loss while sparing muscle but again. Test is king, there is a reason it is the gold standard of TRT.

Muscle gain and fat loss are the main interests of mine and I'd say my sex drive is pretty normal, if anything I'd want it to get me less involved with annoying women).

Also when you say it wont give you mass what do you mean?
You say it will help build muscle but not mass, isn't muscle the mass one would be referring to?

 

[BD Cool]

which seems to be flat out lies but not germane to this discussion

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