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beefnewton

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A lot of normal people that I know have really fucked up their system on the prescribed GLP 1. A lot of your problems are from stress and aging. Stack on top of that Semaglutide and PEDs and it is exasperating everything.
I will never forget the effect that mental stress had on me at 22. My long term girl I dated all through high school and college left me. I was in the peak of my bodybuilding years had won a city and county show and deep in prep for the state show. I stayed on same diet juice and training schedule and felt like I had been eating jelly donuts. Training felt like pounding wood.
I don't have any advice other than to hit trt add in some more vitamins and minerals and efa. Plus try eating a cleaner unprocessed diet with more fiber acidophilus etc.
I wish you the best. I am in a whole right now...deep.. and don't want to hijack your thread but it is all related to aging and everything related to fitness and bodybuilding.

Right on. I've been feeling that oppressive weight of depression. Kind of picked a bad time to make any changes; I honestly did not know coffee was propping me up that much. Mood is way better, and so are energy levels, with a simple cup of coffee (not an oversized mug of high octane like before). I lost my dog close to two years ago, and it still weighs on me every single day. She was my only joy. I remember you lost yours, too. Couple that with some stupendous failures with the past two relationships, losing my job this week, having to back out of buying that house in Florida (as well as losing a $10k deposit), and my fucking 51st birthday next month, I'm really not having a good time. I usually have my diet locked down, but with the stress, even that had begun to fray and decline in quality... and that Saturday night cheat meal has gotten more and more indulgent. My training is literally the only thing helping me keep my sanity. I've got some left over Reds and Greens powder from 1st Phorm I'm going to reintroduce for the time being. It's pricey, though.
 
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I was. I've been on and off Semaglutide three times now. It totally works for me insofar as food cravings, even at low dose. However, it slows transit time down way too much. It makes bowel movements inconsistent, small, and ends up bloating me.
My wife's been a morning coffee drinker for 20 years when she started Semaglutide she had zero desire to drink it.
 
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A lot of normal people that I know have really fucked up their system on the prescribed GLP 1. A lot of your problems are from stress and aging. Stack on top of that Semaglutide and PEDs and it is exasperating everything.
I will never forget the effect that mental stress had on me at 22. My long term girl I dated all through high school and college left me. I was in the peak of my bodybuilding years had won a city and county show and deep in prep for the state show. I stayed on same diet juice and training schedule and felt like I had been eating jelly donuts. Training felt like pounding wood.
I don't have any advice other than to hit trt add in some more vitamins and minerals and efa. Plus try eating a cleaner unprocessed diet with more fiber acidophilus etc.
I wish you the best. I am in a hole right now...deep.. and don't want to hijack your thread but it is all related to aging and everything related to fitness and bodybuilding. I am trying some things I suggested above but the biggest fear is that it is going to get worse as I get older.
Quite a few of us are in the mental rabbit hole we should start a new post as a support group lol
 
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My wife's been a morning coffee drinker for 20 years when she started Semaglutide she had zero desire to drink it.

You know that was right about that time I was on it. I did say I was enjoying it less and less. I also always have a "rebound" when I stop taking Semaglutide. It's not pretty.
 
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Doing fairly well but have been stuck in this "pseudo-deficit" state for a while, where I can't seem to repeat previous success. I got down to 11% early this year, and the stress has just kept piling on. With the coffee, I'm sure my cortisol levels have been ridiculous. I'm back around 15%, and I've been having real trouble finding that mode again that got me to 11%. Diet fatigue has also hit me the past few weeks, and I've been eating like crap. I put so much intent into my workouts and get so little out of them, I have been thinking of switching to a surplus to genuinely try and gain some actual mass and strength. I am typically very strict with my diet, but I'm in a state of mind now where I now need a break. Maybe my body needs one, too. I know deficit isn't necessarily a stress-free event for the body. Been toying with TDEE calculators, and my protein and carbs were already fairly good for a projected surplus, but my fats are way, way low. Fat is 40-50g per day, usually, when I'm not in this frame of mind. I'm losing my job probably tomorrow, and my living situation is shite. So, I'm sure situational depression isn't helping pumps, either. I just want to sleep all damn day right now and eat chips. I'm all over the place with this reply. Sodium is pretty decent, though. I went through a stint a little over a month ago where I figured out I wasn't getting enough. Started supplementing with actual sodium tablets and things went back to normal.
My completely understand the mental in situational rut. If there's anything I could do to help you out let me know, even though I don't know how to get out of mine lol
 
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You know that was right about that time I was on it. I did say I was enjoying it less and less. I also always have a "rebound" when I stop taking Semaglutide. It's not pretty.
I'm pretty sure the pharmaceutical companies intended people to be on it forever with no break, at least from what I read it was my impression. Each time you quit is the rebound worse or better or same? How much of a rebound do you experience?! I was just in the hospital for 5 days zero food allowed, One day I got bone broth. Blood sugar stayed around 80 to 74. And I gained 12 lb lol
 
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My completely understand the mental in situational rut. If there's anything I could do to help you out let me know, even though I don't know how to get out of mine lol

Thanks, man. Not much to be done beyond one day at a time. Just trying to find another contract and probably unload the M5. I've had my fun, and it's kind of an anchor. Maybe LK will buy it since he's rich, but I think he only likes American muscle cars. I only have it because I was willing to go into debt. Definitely will need to unload in next few years. If I'm still around at 55, I still want to make it down to Florida, which will open up a lot of potential properties at that age. I may try to make it down sooner, but this last contract was remarkably lucrative. It is unlikely I will find something lateral or even comparable. It really hit to the gut I had to cancel all my plans. Same contract 5.5 years, and we were about to enter into a three-year project. The likelihood of renewal was higher than any time previous.

I'm pretty sure the pharmaceutical companies intended people to be on it forever with no break, at least from what I read it was my impression. Each time you quit is the rebound worse or better or same? How much of a rebound do you experience?! I was just in the hospital for 5 days zero food allowed, One day I got bone broth. Blood sugar stayed around 80 to 74. And I gained 12 lb lol

When I go through those phases, I tend to avoid the scale. But I can tell a definite difference to my core.. stomach, love handles, and back fat. 5+ pounds easy. So really, what did the Sema really do for me? I'm getting control back, and switching things up with GF's carb cycling recommendations will help because it's something new.
 
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Thanks, man. Not much to be done beyond one day at a time. Just trying to find another contract and probably unload the M5. I've had my fun, and it's kind of an anchor. Maybe LK will buy it since he's rich, but I think he only likes American muscle cars. I only have it because I was willing to go into debt. Definitely will need to unload in next few years. If I'm still around at 55, I still want to make it down to Florida, which will open up a lot of potential properties at that age. I may try to make it down sooner, but this last contract was remarkably lucrative. It is unlikely I will find something lateral or even comparable. It really hit to the gut I had to cancel all my plans. Same contract 5.5 years, and we were about to enter into a three-year project. The likelihood of renewal was higher than any time previous.



When I go through those phases, I tend to avoid the scale. But I can tell a definite difference to my core.. stomach, love handles, and back fat. 5+ pounds easy. So really, what did the Sema really do for me? I'm getting control back, and switching things up with GF's carb cycling recommendations will help because it's something new.
5 to 10 lbs not bad considering I'm sure you lost more. Oh my wife doesn't work out nothing hasn't changed shit and shes lost 30 something pound so far. I would agree it's probably definitely giving you control and allowing you to visualize results. Hang in there, we are here for you.
 
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5 to 10 lbs not bad considering I'm sure you lost more. Oh my wife doesn't work out nothing hasn't changed shit and shes lost 30 something pound so far. I would agree it's probably definitely giving you control and allowing you to visualize results. Hang in there, we are here for you.
Well this time around I really wasn't on it long enough to have ended up with a net loss. Basically net zero. But that's the last time I'm using it. I can't deal with the gastro issues. As controversial its use, I had pretty damn good results with DNP. I didn't realize it at the time, though, and thought my run had been fairly unsuccessful. Would try and plan better if I did it again. I got labs immediately after, and my thyroid was hit hard. Also developed an intolerable neuropathic itching on my feet after stopping (it went away after a week).
 
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Well this time around I really wasn't on it long enough to have ended up with a net loss. Basically net zero. But that's the last time I'm using it. I can't deal with the gastro issues. As controversial its use, I had pretty damn good results with DNP. I didn't realize it at the time, though, and thought my run had been fairly unsuccessful. Would try and plan better if I did it again. I got labs immediately after, and my thyroid was hit hard. Also developed an intolerable neuropathic itching on my feet after stopping (it went away after a week).
The itch would be a deal breaker.
 
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