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dashriprock

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calories are not sustainable and going to dig you into a deep hole that you won’t be able to climb out of.

no, I can't ask the person who said it. The last time I saw someone ask him to explain what he meant or to expand on the thought he got mad.
 
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Sounds like someone just being dramatic to try and lend weight/credibility to what they're saying, when they really don't know what they fuck they're talking about... the clue is them getting angry when being questioned. What happens in an extreme deficit? You lose fat, muscle, etc. But is it something from which you can't recover? Unless there is some comorbidity, that's new to me.
 
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no, I can't ask the person who said it. The last time I saw someone ask him to explain what he meant or to expand on the thought he got mad.
@beefnewton hit this one on the head , sounds like some dipshit just yip yappin n jaw jacking to hear himself talk.

I've been in a 2k deficit ,, yep you read it right , daily was 3300 and I was running 1300 , chicken lettuce blueberries yogurt and protein ,, IT SUCKED but it worked weighed in at 194 for the meet.

Hardest thing about coming out of a deep deficit is eating as dumb as that sounds. You've been starving and as you start to add cals and carbs back in your mind and body go nuts. The cravings are ungodly and you can eat until you make yourself sick.

Don't do that.

If you're in a deep deficit for an extended time work out of the hole slowly with common sense , add a few hundred cals every few days until you get where you want to be. Worst thing you can do is over feed a starving man.
 
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When you are in an extreme deficit for too long, your endocrine system will start to adjust to the calories you are consuming. For some people, this could happen in as little as 4 days at a deficit of 1,000 calories a day. There are too many variables to determine how quickly your body compensates for the extreme calorie deficit, but this is why when we are cutting for bodybuilding contests we generally try and keep our deficits to around 500 for as long as we can then when we need to push it, we add in HRT levels of thyroid hormones.
 
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no, I can't ask the person who said it. The last time I saw someone ask him to explain what he meant or to expand on the thought he got mad.
Would need his entire quote to determine the context of what he meant. It feels like the first part of the sentence (or prior sentence) was not included. You can't determine anything off that quote, to be honest. It would just be guessing.
 
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dashriprock

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need his entire quote
6/9 macros
p 64
c 0
f 36

6/9 steps
23,658

6/9 cardio
61-minute recumbent bike

it was said in response to the above.
I commend your discipline and desire, but these calories are not sustainable and going to dig you into a deep hole that you won’t be able to climb out of.
 
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I retract my original reply. I dunno about a deep, unclimbable hole, but that does seem a bit much.

But you did say extreme, so I dunno. Maybe you know something I don't. I'd almost consider water fasting for its benefits with macros that low.
 
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6/9 macros
p 64
c 0
f 36

6/9 steps
23,658

6/9 cardio
61-minute recumbent bike

it was said in response to the above.

So for the day of 6/9, you ate a total of 64g of protein and 36 grams of fat....along with the steps and cardio? Or is that 1 meal?

If it's the total for the day, you only ate about 580 calories.
 
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That would be sustainable for me until later on 6/9.
 
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Okay, I cannot say this in any nicer way. There is extreme calorie deficit then there is straight fucking retarded. That is straight fucking retarded.

At that point, unless you are on at least a gram of AAS (and probably that is not enough), you are losing way more muscle tissue than fat. I am going to give you a freebie. Set up your meal plan to where you are getting 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass and between 50-75 grams of dietary fat per day. This will ensure you have enough protein to prevent catabolism and enough fat to keep your hormone levels and lipids from dropping off. Now set your carbohydrates so that you are in a calorie deficit of 1,000 calories a day then every 4th day bring your carbs up, so that your calories are at maintenance level. This will keep your metabolism from tanking and you will able burn off 1.5-2 lbs of bodyfat per week. I use this method all the way up until I am at 7% bodyfat, which is really fucking easy to get to. And no, I do not have a fast metabolism. Per my labs, my thyroid levels are middle of the road. I just have discipline and a strong work ethic. In fact, 99% of the population has a metabolism that falls into the normal range. They use it as an excuse as to why they are fat.
 
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Okay, I cannot say this in any nicer way. There is extreme calorie deficit then there is straight fucking retarded. That is straight fucking retarded.

At that point, unless you are on at least a gram of AAS (and probably that is not enough), you are losing way more muscle tissue than fat. I am going to give you a freebie. Set up your meal plan to where you are getting 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass and between 50-75 grams of dietary fat per day. This will ensure you have enough protein to prevent catabolism and enough fat to keep your hormone levels and lipids from dropping off. Now set your carbohydrates so that you are in a calorie deficit of 1,000 calories a day then every 4th day bring your carbs up, so that your calories are at maintenance level. This will keep your metabolism from tanking and you will able burn off 1.5-2 lbs of bodyfat per week. I use this method all the way up until I am at 7% bodyfat, which is really fucking easy to get to. And no, I do not have a fast metabolism. Per my labs, my thyroid levels are middle of the road. I just have discipline and a strong work ethic. In fact, 99% of the population has a metabolism that falls into the normal range. They use it as an excuse as to why they are fat.


average of last seven days.

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