tried, no explode... no explode nt, no xplode 2.0, jacked, super pump, super pump max, animal rage, gerinimo, buzz saw, neurocore, I forces pre workout, black powder, whte flood, endorush, and a few others. The best is endo rush or craze, followed by jacked and no xplode nt, the rest follow. If u can handle Stimson craze will rock u, endorush would be my number 1 but it's pricy as hell, if u really want a great workout toss in 24 mg of ephedrine and u will tear shit up.