Oral Primo

[tommyguns2]

If it's real Primo, at 200mg it can cause pain and lumps (pip).

Also for many, if test isn't ran high enough with in 4 weeks you will feel like shit with very low estrogen.

Shouldn't you have learned these things before hand?

high dosed primo can cause some PIP (post-injection pain). And both primo and EQ have anti-estrogenic effects. Many will run a testrimo ratio or a test:EQ ratio at 3:2 or even 2:1 so that the second compound doesn't reduce the estrogen from the test to go too low.

Low E2 (estrogen) can make men feel pretty miserable (low libido, achy, etc.), and high E2 is not desirable either. You want it just right. How high is that? I don't know. I like it a little high, but not high enough to cause water retention or itchy nips.

 

[genetic freak]

The guys covered it. Oral primo at a dose high enough to do much of anything would be the same price as running 18 iu of pharma GH a day.

200 mg primo needs some harsh solvents to get it to hold in solution. It will likely have a high amount of EO or worse guaiacol. If you open it up and it smells like you just disinfected a hospital, throw it away. You do not want to inject guaiacol. It is straight poison. Not sure how guys can use that for pre-workout and site injection blends. I couldn't even move my arm for like 30 minutes post injection.

If you using primo as an AI then I would suggest EQ, as it can be extremely effective. If you are just using primo as an extra anabolic then I would add in a low dose of DHB. When I say low, I mean 10 mg a day low. The stuff is powerful and pretty much anything over 10 mg a day is going to wreck your liver.

 

[fasttwitch]

Hi all- does anyone have any experience and thoughts on oral Primo? Inj. seems to be sold out everywhere so I was giving oral some thought. Anxious to hear what more experience guys think on this

Kind of meh.

Those were my experiences.

 

[SFGiants]

The guys covered it. Oral primo at a dose high enough to do much of anything would be the same price as running 18 iu of pharma GH a day.

200 mg primo needs some harsh solvents to get it to hold in solution. It will likely have a high amount of EO or worse guaiacol. If you open it up and it smells like you just disinfected a hospital, throw it away. You do not want to inject guaiacol. It is straight poison. Not sure how guys can use that for pre-workout and site injection blends. I couldn't even move my arm for like 30 minutes post injection.

If you using primo as an AI then I would suggest EQ, as it can be extremely effective. If you are just using primo as an extra anabolic then I would add in a low dose of DHB. When I say low, I mean 10 mg a day low. The stuff is powerful and pretty much anything over 10 mg a day is going to wreck your liver.

Primo 200 is easily held with just GSO/ BA/BB in the standard %, but if not mixed with test per inject some, most will have some nice pip.

So those adding a lot of EO or Guac are not doing so for hold but to reduce or eliminate the pip.

As much as 200 can hurt and hella lump, these types of people are using excessive amounts of solvent rather then just teaching to mix the shot with test.

DHB is even worse in these aspects, but as you said, very potent, DHB can be the worst pip ever.

 

[genetic freak]

Primo 200 is easily held with just GSO/ BA/BB in the standard %, but if not mixed with test per inject some, most will have some nice pip.

So those adding a lot of EO or Guac are not doing so for hold but to reduce or eliminate the pip.

As much as 200 can hurt and hella lump, these types of people are using excessive amounts of solvent rather then just teaching to mix the shot with test.

DHB is even worse in these aspects, but as you said, very potent, DHB can be the worst pip ever.

That may be true, but guaiacol is definitely not reducing PIP. Haha. It is multiplying it by about 100. Never injected anything so painful in my life. Makes anthrax and small pox feel like a tickle.

I don't get my PIP from DHB as long as I go an inch deep. If I try 1/2 inch, that shit sucks for days.

 

[SFGiants]

That may be true, but guaiacol is definitely not reducing PIP. Haha. It is multiplying it by about 100. Never injected anything so painful in my life. Makes anthrax and small pox feel like a tickle.

I don't get my PIP from DHB as long as I go an inch deep. If I try 1/2 inch, that shit sucks for days.

Your probably right on Guac, or allergic to it. Man that shit stinks so much as well. Been too long since I touched that crap.

I never hand a pip free shot with Guac, TNE and old shit Tren A.

People especially years back used EO wrong IMO, some stuff was 100%. I would say it's safe when used because BA is already pushed high enough and BB is kept 20% or lower.

These days some are pushing BB over 50% and I just can't agree with that..

 

[genetic freak]

Your probably right on Guac, or allergic to it. Man that shit stinks so much as well. Been too long since I touched that crap.

I never hand a pip free shot with Guac, TNE and old shit Tren A.

People especially years back used EO wrong IMO, some stuff was 100%. I would say it's safe when used because BA is already pushed high enough and BB is kept 20% or lower.

These days some are pushing BB over 50% and I just can't agree with that..

The best solution is to just stick to the standard compounds at their typical doses. Once you go outside those, you start running into issues. I get guys want to reduce oil volume sometimes, but they would be better off in a lot of ways just using a higher volume organic oil in a standard solution than using some of the super blends that are going to drive up inflammation.

 

[big bx]

Im gonna say you probably need 200-300mg of oral primo a day to SEE results. They say it has 33 to 50% orally bio availability. Idk.

Might get some recovery and estradiol benefits from 50 to 100mg. I know clinics prescribed in this range.

But, if your a guy and all ready injecting test. Add it in the injectable form. We know 300-400mg weekly produces results.

 

[tommyguns2]

Primo 200 is easily held with just GSO/ BA/BB in the standard %, but if not mixed with test per inject some, most will have some nice pip.

So those adding a lot of EO or Guac are not doing so for hold but to reduce or eliminate the pip.

As much as 200 can hurt and hella lump, these types of people are using excessive amounts of solvent rather then just teaching to mix the shot with test.

DHB is even worse in these aspects, but as you said, very potent, DHB can be the worst pip ever.

I've never had PIP as bad as with DHB. I had difficulty walking without a noticeable limp. Was absolutely awful. Never tried it again.

 

[HollyWoodCole]

So far my worst pip is with primo by a country mile. Thankfully I always mix with test and have also adopted pinning early morning and doing some leg work to begin moving that oil around.

Also a little advil helps tremendously.