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Off TRT after 1.5 years on he’s my latest labs -

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uniquetouch

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My test is so low. Hope it bounces back to the 500 range when I first began.
 
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Test - 188
Dhea - 168
Estradiol - 31.5
Free t3 -10.3
Psa - .5
 
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Test - 188
Dhea - 168
Estradiol - 31.5
Free t3 -10.3
Psa - .5

Norm ranges

Test - 250-827 ng/dL
Dhea - 70 to 310 µg/dL
Estradiol - < OR = 39 pg/mL
Free T3 - 2.0 – 4.4 pg/mL
Psa - < OR = 4.00 ng/mL

The Free T3 is kind of high and your test sucks! Have you tried HGC or clomid/enclomiphene to stimulate testosterone production? There is also Gonadorelin and Triptorelin which are both GnRH agonists which can also kick start testosterone production. Might also consider taking 200mg of DHEA per day to help raise your DHEA levels as well as testosterone. The DHEA is in the norm range but kind of on the low end.

Having low testosterone and high Free T3 may be is associated with an increase in your body’s SHBG levels and an increase in bound testosterone, leaving less free testosterone to circulate in your body. This means you will have low testosterone.

Most likely you need to see your doctor for advice on these issues.
 
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That was taken a month ago. Hoping it’s a little improved by now. Will grab some dhea. Hoping the free test will improve as well. I have also been doing about a 500-1000 calories deficit for the last four weeks as well in basically protein only and no carbs. Figured I’d try and cut a good 10-15pounds during the winter since I was stopping everything. Didn’t like how I was starting to have panic attacks on the TRT and social anxiety that I never had prior.
 
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And my fault the answer to your question I just started Clomid 4 days ago. Crazy thing is I still have my strength actually feel like I’m stronger than I was but who knows
 
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I just heard a podcast covering this, I don't remember which one. However, statistically those who run 8 cycles or a cycle as long as yours (yes TRT counts, as it suppresses HPTA) become TRT dependent. There are always outliers, so you might be okay. I am just saying the odds are not in your favor. This is why I caution people who have normal test levels from jumping on TRT.
 
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I just heard a podcast covering this, I don't remember which one. However, statistically those who run 8 cycles or a cycle as long as yours (yes TRT counts, as it suppresses HPTA) become TRT dependent. There are always outliers, so you might be okay. I am just saying the odds are not in your favor. This is why I caution people who have normal test levels from jumping on TRT.
Ya I’m praying I’ll go somewhere close to where I was atleast over 300. I feel pretty good. Diet is clean as hell and hour cardio a day and lifting heavy as I can. I def regret going on it for. Would have been better off just running Anavar here and there
 
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If you've been off for 1.5 years and your level is 188 ng/dL I think the probability is low that you will return to the 500s. Sorry to say.
 
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Ya no doubt it’s been probably about 1.5 months off now maybe a little longer
 
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Ya no doubt it’s been probably about 1.5 months off now maybe a little longer
Oh!!my mistake. you've only been off for 1.5 months. then still a big chance you will return. I went on and off a lot over the years. At 6 weeks off not a lot is happening even with PCT in place. With PCT I would be around 300 at 6 weeks. then somewhere between 12 and 16 weeks off I would be in the 500-600 range.
 
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Oh!!my mistake. you've only been off for 1.5 months. then still a big chance you will return. I went on and off a lot over the years. At 6 weeks off not a lot is happening even with PCT in place. With PCT I would be around 300 at 6 weeks. then somewhere between 12 and 16 weeks off I would be in the 500-600 range.
All good brother. I was on TRT prob for a year. And then stopped. Hoping things get to somewhat normal range especially my Free t3 . Just started Clomid 4-5 days ago so hopefully it’ll work. If not I’ll try and find a good doctor not an online bs and just get dialed in not a crazy dose.
 
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All good brother. I was on TRT prob for a year. And then stopped. Hoping things get to somewhat normal range especially my Free t3 . Just started Clomid 4-5 days ago so hopefully it’ll work. If not I’ll try and find a good doctor not an online bs and just get dialed in not a crazy dose.
I cycled on and off for 3 years and then went off for about a year and a half and I bounced back. then cycled on and off for another 3 years and went off for 10 years and bounced back. it took about 6 months before I felt normal and then by about a year off before I was back to normal. Then cycled on and off from 46 to 55 and always bounced back to 500-600 ng/dL range in 12-16 weeks. So I was pretty lucky or between my approach and my genetics I was always able to bounce back. If you are like me, and I don't think I am an exception, you have a chance. I always cycled off after 3-4 months on so that probably helped a lot. I still cycle off for periods at 63 YOA.
 
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