nutrition for 5'2 60kg female

Discussion in 'Female Misc' started by zeevolution, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. zeevolution

    zeevolution VIP Member

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    hey guys im after some advice for a friend. i dont have her LBM and at this stage im very unlikely to get it lol...

    5'2
    60kgs
    30years old
    i would say she is possibly a size 10-11, based on her height and weight from google. im not sure though...
    does little to no exercise.

    would i be right in thinking she would need to eat around 1200cals a day to lose BF without any training? if so, what should her macros be?

    can someone give me a small layout? i mean, i could base her nutrition off a males but is there something she would be missing in terms of female requirements?
    she has once gone to the gym, but only for 6 months and to fit into her wedding dress. since then and before then, nothing. its going to be a long road trying to get her into lifting, so at the moment i want to focus on her eating.

    any thoughts?
    thanks
     
  2. dangerouscurves

    dangerouscurves TID Lady VIP

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    It's similair to a mans , a little less cals per kg .. Her estimated bmr would be 1621 cals/ day
    1lb per week loss looking at 1121 cals/day

    For a newbie I recommend 40/40/20(f) split

    May be good to encourage her by showing her what working out allows her calorie wise
     
  3. shortz

    shortz Beard of Knowledge VIP

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    With no exercise and a wide range of metabolic fluctuation, it could be as low as 1200, but I would start a bit higher. If you start too low, you will end up having to bottom her out further along in the process. If she were my client, I would have her at around 1400 to start, with a 40/40/20 split as well. However, as dc mentioned above, the macro break down won't be as important as the calories for someone not looking to make optimal muscle gains or in need of staying anti-catabolic as a lifter. The idea here is to get her to stay on the diet first and foremost. If she wants to be optimal, then macros should be put in to place as well. I will say, women sometimes tend to dislike the carbs being as high for several reasons. 1. Women tend to be more sensitive to carbs 2. Water retention could make it look and feel like progress is halted or not as great 3. Allows for more fats and protein, further helping to prevent LBM loss so at the end, she could potentially look and feel better
     
  4. TheClap

    TheClap VIP Member

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    Do you have a gauge on how many calories she's eating a day now? Is she maintaining on her current intake? Or gaining or losing?

    Here's my limited experience working with my wife. 5'4" abt 105-107lbs (48.6kg) thin, but no muscle mass. Last time we did a 7pt caliper test she was just under 20% bf. She could eat pie and ice cream every day and not get fat but is having to make some adjustments to get the body she really wants. With her, diet is the hardest thing to get her to comply with. She'll work legs so hard she can hardly walk, but diet...

    So here is what has been our process. Advance in stages:

    Diet Stage 1) Forget about hitting the exact macros and calories. Focus on getting some actual protein into her body. That's all I have her keep track of right now. Because that will be a big step in the right direction. We don't do 5-6 meals a day, but that's my own thing. I don't buy into that. Some do, not here to argue about it. Just stating my experienc. We do IF where she eats 10hrs a day and fasts for 14. She's seeing results with this alone and we have a ways to go. Still short on protein most days. When she can hit that, we'll move into the other macros and calories. ONE step at a time with diet.

    Workout Stage 1) She's in the gym on what's very similar to a 5X5. Few little modifications. Mark Rippetoe's Beginners routine (his tweak on 5x5) gave me some of the best results of my life. Right now it's
    • Lift 2 x a week
    • 2 days cardio/week. One of them Zumba which she really likes doing. Other cardio is HIIT for 16-20 minutes. She'd rather go all out for shorter periods than long and low intensity. Convenient that HIIT is better for fat loss.
    • 3rd day with weights if she'll do it. And she's getting the fire enough that she's doing it sometimes now

    Diet Stage 2) Once we can hit the protein needs. We'll move on to the other macros and total cals.
    Diet Stage 3) Protein reqirements met, macros on point. Then go 20% above maintenance on lifting days, 20% below on rest days, a little bit below maintenance on cardio only days.

    Workout Stage 2) Lift 3x/wk. Cardio 2x/wk (combined with any workout other than legs)

    But the thing I've gotten through to her recently is the most important single thing in achieving fitness/physique/build goals. ****in consistency. If all you do is 2xlift/wk and one day cardio initially do it and keep at it. I'd bet less than 1 in a 1000 people go from nothing to hardcore eating right and training like they mean it and keep at it for ANY amount of time. Change just 10% and actually stick with it. Then add another 5% change and DON'T backslide. Then another and another. It adds up to close enough to 100% that people get their body they want.

    Once you get them to where the fat starts to come off the lower abs (last place it goes away) that's when she'll be hooked for life.

    Long post but that's my experience after waiting 10 years for my wife to step up to the plate. Oh and as a 10yr veteran of marriage one last thing, don't try to motivate her... that goes horribly. Let her know "I'ts all on you. I'll lay out the road map and give you any answers and help you want but I can't make you want it."

    Long post but I don't give a shit.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2014
  5. zeevolution

    zeevolution VIP Member

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    this i am going to do when i next see her, in a couple of weeks. shell hopefully find it a breeze and get right into it. i think ill hold out and get her to measure herself correctly before we go forward.

    cheers for the advice mate. that sounds good. some of those ill explain to her, about carbs, water retention and to focus on measurements/photos not scales.

     
  6. CelluliteBurned

    CelluliteBurned Member

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    For getting advice on such serious topic you should consult a doctor. It will be best for you. A person of such height and weight should take normal amount of diet to maintain a healthy physique.
     
  7. shortz

    shortz Beard of Knowledge VIP

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    Da **** is this? Losing some weight is serious business. Consult a doctor before eating healthy.
     
  8. PillarofBalance

    PillarofBalance Strength Pimp Staff Member

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    Also thinks you should consult a doctor before you start stretching between sets...

    Wut
     

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