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NEWS: Bitcoin growing up and gaining mainstream credibility

NavyChief

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Bitcoin is growing up. CME Group, the world’s largest derivatives exchange, said yesterday that it will create a futures contract for trading the cryptocurrency, another sign it is becoming a mainstream financial asset like gold or oil. The news sent the bitcoin price soaring to yet another new record, surpassing $6,500 for the first time.

For crypto-enthusiasts, the CME’s announcement signals that it thinks bitcoin has real-world applications beyond pure speculation. Derivatives exchanges like CME and CBOE Holdings, which also has plans to launch bitcoin futures, can theoretically create options, futures, and other derivatives linked to just about anything, but they usually only do so when there’s a commercial reason for it. Oil futures, which traders use to bet on crude’s price, allow companies to hedge the risk of oil prices rising or falling. Futures tied to a football team winning or losing, on the other hand, probably wouldn’t have a meaningful commercial application.

As for bitcoin futures, they could make the digital asset more useful by allowing users and intermediaries to hedge their foreign-exchange risks. That could increase the cryptocurrency’s adoption by merchants who want to accept bitcoin payments but are wary of its volatile value. Institutional investors are also used to trading regulated futures, which aren’t plagued by money-laundering worries.
CME’s move also suggests that bitcoin has become too big to ignore, since the exchange seemed to rule out crypto futures in the recent past. Bitcoin is just about all anyone is talking about at brokerages and trading firms, which have suffered amid rising but unusually placid markets. If futures at an exchange took off, it would be nearly impossible for any other exchange, like CME, to catch up, since scale and liquidity is important in derivatives markets.
“You can’t ignore the fact that this is becoming more and more of a story that won’t go away,” said CME CEO Terry Duffy in an interview with CNBC. There are “mainstream companies” that want access to bitcoin and there’s “huge pent-up demand” from clients, he said. Duffy also thinks bringing institutional traders into the market could make bitcoin less volatile.
That said, bitcoin still has a long way to go before it becomes a feature of global financial markets.

Lots of futures contracts never gain wide adoption, no matter how promising they seem at first. And neither the CME futures contact nor the CBOE one has been approved by regulators yet, although their announcements suggest they’re confident they can pull it off.
For big institutions, there are other hurdles. CME’s bitcoin futures are “cash settled,” meaning investors are delivered dollars instead of bitcoin at the end of the contact. That seems like an easy solution for companies that worry bitcoin could be “dirty,” but their limited ability to buy and sell actual bitcoin (for arbitrage or hedging) could reduce how much trading is possible.
And then there’s the issue of volatility. Exchanges like CME might require brokers to post extra collateral to trade bitcoin futures, which could further restrain buying and selling.
The CME news is one more sign that exchange executives think bitcoin is “here to stay.” Even so, some of its biggest believers, like Fortress Investment’s Mike Novogratz, believe prices are probably in a bubble. As usual with something so new and exciting as cryptocurrencies, there’s a risk that the hype runs ahead of the reality.
 
Mike_RN

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How soon til the "brokers" can do online bank Xfers from Traditional banks? The only thing keeping me from using it for "Real" commerce is the idea of sending funds through the back door to buy currency.

I buy enough to fund my anonymous email and a few other things but would invest if the means of buying Bitcoin was more "transparent".
 
NavyChief

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How soon til the "brokers" can do online bank Xfers from Traditional banks? The only thing keeping me from using it for "Real" commerce is the idea of sending funds through the back door to buy currency.

I buy enough to fund my anonymous email and a few other things but would invest if the means of buying Bitcoin was more "transparent".

You can already do this. one way is to set up a Coinbase account and directly transfer from either a credit card or directly from your bank account.

You can do a wire transfer, this is available to all who have completed sufficient account verification's. To deposit using a bank wire into your Coinbase account:

  1. Select the Accounts tab
  2. Select your USD wallet
  3. Click on the "Deposit" button
  4. Make sure to select "Wire Transfer" from the "Pay in Method" menu
  5. Use the information displayed to initiate a Wire transfer denominated in USD from your bank account.
The name on the bank wire must match the legal name on your Coinbase account for the wire to be accepted though,,,, this is a must...

It is also very important to include the Reference Number to ensure that your deposit is correctly associated with your Coinbase account. Wired funds will typically appear in your account within 1 business day after you send them.

From here if you wish to keep your anonymity, you can set up an account with Monero, then transfer from Coinbase or what ever account you have, into the Monero account and continue all transactions in this manner, allowing you to keep completely anonymous now. Hope this helps Mike.
 
FlyingDragon

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How soon til the "brokers" can do online bank Xfers from Traditional banks? The only thing keeping me from using it for "Real" commerce is the idea of sending funds through the back door to buy currency.

I buy enough to fund my anonymous email and a few other things but would invest if the means of buying Bitcoin was more "transparent".


You said "back door"....lol
 
Mike_RN

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Hey that's how the broker told me...he said it's the only way to get Bitcoins. Damn I feel #metoo
 
Mrhat

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Bitcoin case (BCH) is going crazy! I have a friend that is making $1,000.00 in the last hr.

Ps. Bitcoin is falling like a rock right now!

Mrhat
 
FlyingDragon

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Bitcoin case (BCH) is going crazy! I have a friend that is making $1,000.00 in the last hr.

Ps. Bitcoin is falling like a rock right now!

Mrhat

Thats porno star type money....
 
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