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luckysaint

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A really good friend of mine came home yesterday from the Doctors office and they would not prescribe him narcotics due to him being on some "Dr's Narcotics List". I was like WTF, he asked me since I know everything......lol:):) if I knew anything about this list??? I don't, never heard of it.. Anyone know of anything like this, now I'm curious??? Thanks

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FlyingDragon

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My State has a database of all prescriptions. Only doctors can prescribe narcotics and after a certain amount you have to get referred to a Pain specialist. A Pharmacist can see if someone is on the narcotics list and refuse to fill the script. This was done to prevent users from doctor shopping for their narcotics or from making copies of the script and getting multiple pharmacies to fill it.
 
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They keep track where I live. One of my high school classmates had a come apart in the middle of Wal Mart pharmacy because he was denied more pain pills. He was whacked out on them & having some type of withdrawals or something. Idk how all that works, not my thing.
 
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One of our rescue dogs is on whatever the generics for Xanax and Prozac are to keep her from biting some of the others. Scripted by our DVM, we can get a supply for a certain # of months, and then get authorized refills for the balance of the year until the DVM wants to reevaluate at the one year mark.

In the past, before we knew better, we sometimes tried getting an authorized refill ONE day early just because it was more convenient for us to be near that drugstore that day than the next.

We were denied a few times until we learned how to play the game by the rules ... the same computerized records rules the pharmacists also must follow. Common sense and allowing a little wiggle room do not get factored in.
 
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A really good friend of mine came home yesterday from the Doctors office and they would not prescribe him narcotics due to him being on some "Dr's Narcotics List". I was like WTF, he asked me since I know everything......lol:):) if I knew anything about this list??? I don't, never heard of it.. Anyone know of anything like this, now I'm curious??? Thanks

Lucky

Wow, strange. I know the pharmacies and doctors talk electronically to keep things honest and protect against doctor shopping. But an actual do not prescribe list? That's nuts. Even if somebody had had a problem with pills in the past, what if they were dying of cancer or went into the hospital because they chopped a finger off? No meds? Seems like an overreach to put somebody n a list like this.

Maybe the doctor is looking for a reason not prescribe? Just a guess.

My doctor gives me Vicodin and I've never had issues. Except one time I was leaving the US and wouldn't be back for 2 weeks. Then the pharmacy wanted proof of my international itinerary to dispense the medication earlier than normal.
 
Jrod

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Digging up an old thread.
They have a PDMP ( Prescription Drug Monitoring Program).
They all share the same database and can see all prescriptions and if you go to a doctor they can put in notes that can be seen by other doctors and pharmacists.
I have some serious back and neck problems that limit what I can do. I’ve been taking pain meds in and off for a while only when OTC meds don’t work.
Pre 2010 there were never issues with doctors writing prescriptions for pain meds but after, they cracked down.
In trying to combat the “opioid epidemic”, doctors drastically reduced and even cut off medication for patients who were on them for years due to chronic pain. All that did was create a demand for alternatives and it’s no coincidence after the crackdown around 2016 all these labs started synthesizing opioids such as fentanyl, carfentanil, etc.
Now they are adjusting their guidelines so people aren’t cut off and suffer through horrible withdrawals. I know there are people that abuse these meds but there are some people that take them responsibly and it improves their quality of life.
I bet if they didn’t cut people off so abruptly there wouldn’t be people dropping like flies from fentanyl laced drugs. They put it in EVERYTHING now. I wouldn’t get anything that doesn’t come from the pharmacy. Hell, they put fentanyl in cocaine! That’s counter productive lol !
 
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Digging up an old thread.
They have a PDMP ( Prescription Drug Monitoring Program).
They all share the same database and can see all prescriptions and if you go to a doctor they can put in notes that can be seen by other doctors and pharmacists.
I have some serious back and neck problems that limit what I can do. I’ve been taking pain meds in and off for a while only when OTC meds don’t work.
Pre 2010 there were never issues with doctors writing prescriptions for pain meds but after, they cracked down.
In trying to combat the “opioid epidemic”, doctors drastically reduced and even cut off medication for patients who were on them for years due to chronic pain. All that did was create a demand for alternatives and it’s no coincidence after the crackdown around 2016 all these labs started synthesizing opioids such as fentanyl, carfentanil, etc.
Now they are adjusting their guidelines so people aren’t cut off and suffer through horrible withdrawals. I know there are people that abuse these meds but there are some people that take them responsibly and it improves their quality of life.
I bet if they didn’t cut people off so abruptly there wouldn’t be people dropping like flies from fentanyl laced drugs. They put it in EVERYTHING now. I wouldn’t get anything that doesn’t come from the pharmacy. Hell, they put fentanyl in cocaine! That’s counter productive lol !
I had my long term doctor leave to private practice from the big giant UNC Rex Healthcare. I didn't find out for a long time as he was not allowed to let people know. I had a prescription for ambien and Xanax to use as needed. The first thing my new doctor tells me is no refills until you take a drug test and bring your bottles in for a count. I asked why and he said to prove you are taking them and selling them. I literally freaked out and told him to forget it. He was gone from that practice in less than 2 years. Big Healthcare destroys any chance of equal health care. This was back when all the opiate shit was in the news.
 
jipped genes

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Really!? That is crazy, I do not take that shit. Makes me feel horrible. I refused my last script for hydrocodone when my nose got broke for the 6th time. ibuprofen is fine.

Crazy how a bunch of drug seekers make it hard for people with chronic pain to get the meds they need. Let's make people stop driving so we can stop drunk driving accidents.
 
CFM

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Nail on the head @jipped genes!

Crazy how a bunch of drug seekers make it hard for people with chronic pain to get the meds they need. Let's make people stop driving so we can stop drunk driving accidents.
 
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I saw a pain psychologist twice and learned there are two types of pain. Although I was instructed by my attorney to continue pain management and basically collect the Norco tablets I got off that garbage after the first week. I required 3 more surgeries and just had a umbilical hernia repair in October. I don't take that shit!


For those too lazy to read or in denial: the brain manufactures 'pain' to get the reward of the drug(s).
 
Pig Vomit

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Poorly thought out federal policies regarding pain meds is partially responsible for the explosion first in heroin, and now fentanyl, in this country. I'm in pain all the time, yet the docs won't prescribe anything stronger than Tylenol #3 with codeine because if they prescribe Vicodin or Norco, then the feds watch them, the paperwork is extensive, and they risk their license. So people with legit needs for pain meds look for relief elsewhere, and let's face it, it's really easy to score fentanyl online now. Don't get me wrong.....there was significant overprescribing going on and people got addicted through lies about pain levels, etc., and rather than face withdrawals they turned to heroin/fentanyl. I was working patrol and we went from finding heroin maybe a couple times per year to finding it almost everyday. Turning to heroin after being cut off pain meds due to a change in federal policy was a really common story I'd hear from addicts. That having been said.....I've never taken any pain meds not prescribed by my doctor....but I was getting 60 Norcos every 6 months (that works out to one pill every 3 days) and then all of a sudden the feds decided that was excessive and I was cut off. I'd be lying if I didn't admit to thinking about scoring something online for those really bad days, but I don't want to go down that path.
 
Jrod

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Poorly thought out federal policies regarding pain meds is partially responsible for the explosion first in heroin, and now fentanyl, in this country. I'm in pain all the time, yet the docs won't prescribe anything stronger than Tylenol #3 with codeine because if they prescribe Vicodin or Norco, then the feds watch them, the paperwork is extensive, and they risk their license. So people with legit needs for pain meds look for relief elsewhere, and let's face it, it's really easy to score fentanyl online now. Don't get me wrong.....there was significant overprescribing going on and people got addicted through lies about pain levels, etc., and rather than face withdrawals they turned to heroin/fentanyl. I was working patrol and we went from finding heroin maybe a couple times per year to finding it almost everyday. Turning to heroin after being cut off pain meds due to a change in federal policy was a really common story I'd hear from addicts. That having been said.....I've never taken any pain meds not prescribed by my doctor....but I was getting 60 Norcos every 6 months (that works out to one pill every 3 days) and then all of a sudden the feds decided that was excessive and I was cut off. I'd be lying if I didn't admit to thinking about scoring something online for those really bad days, but I don't want to go down that path.
This too!!
Now because of how out of control the fentanyl and other tranquilizers being mixed into heroin, cocaine and pressed pills are, we will probably see the cdc/dea slowly relax some of the tough regulations.
I hate the side effects and I prefer taking otc meds first but I’m glad I have a doctor that prescribes me my meds and isn’t scared of the dea, because there are a couple times a month when Advil doesn’t touch it.
 
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