Macros

[Hillbilly Weak]

This is the first day I have ever counted Macros completely, other than Protein which I started a couple of weeks ago. It's also a "Cheat" day for me, which is usually Biscuits and Sausage gravy... WOW... Those numbers are GIGANTIC... I don't know if I'll ever do that again...

Are Fats all the same? I know the Brain and Liver use Coconut Oil, and Olive Oil is good for everything, while Stadium Polish Sausages are worthless. So for the purpose of the Macro calculator, do I only count the Bad Fat in the Jimmy Dean, or do I also count the Olive Oil Shot?

Besides the Bad Fats, I screwed up my number in the morning anyway with an Avocado, if that counts.

Also, with TDEE, which is different depending on what site I have seen, does anybody have a site that worked for them, AKA they could TELL that it was accurate?

Thanks

 

[CJ Smalls]

Yes, fats are all counted the same in terms of macro and calorie counting, however, they are not all equal in our bodies.

Try to get a majority of your fats from healthy foods, like salmon, nuts, avocados, eggs, etc... and less from junk foods.

 

[Hillbilly Weak]

Ok, well after 2 days of counting, I'm figuring out how annoying it is. I did develop a plan, and I won't get bored with it, but out goes staples like Quinoa and Lentils because of the massive carbs until I cut from 245 to 220. Then I will have to reformulate. Of course if the Gut disappears and I'm 235 but jacked, then I will have to figure that out as well.

But Man, what a Pain! I guess I will have my scale at Thanksgiving and Christmas and weigh out the Lean Turkey and nibble on it like an Aphid! It's my Party and I'll cry if I want to!

Seriously though, the calculator says this will last until January 10.

My goal to get to 220 lbs. caps Calories at 1932, Protein at 220, Carbs at 166 and Fat at 43.

2 Pro Shakes with Milk, 3 Yogurts, 4 Eggs, 224g Chicken and 4 oz. of Juice for the Creatine puts me about 200 under Calories, 1 over on Protein, 3 over on Fat, and 78 under on Carbs.

I know about the Calorie deficit and that's how to trim Fat, but that's all I know. Why count Carbs and Fat if it's totaled in the Calories anyway?

I could eat this plan for Months because I don't ever eat out thanks to wicked unsanitary conditions, so I know how to make everything. I can't eat anything others have of course, but I don't have the craving temptations people usually do. I can drink 8 shots of Whiskey before I finish typing this, or I can go Years with full bottles in the cabinet. The same applies to everything like Ice Cream and Pizza and etc.

So, is what I just invented what people ACTUALLY do, or do you all wing it and add up as you go? If I have to reformulate every couple of weeks, fine... I can't reinvent the Wheel every day though, that would drive me up the wall and I would quickly fail.

 

[Ron OG Mouse]

Something I have learned in my old age. This is a lifestyle. Not just a diet. Occasionally you have to eat something for enjoyment if this lifestyle is sustainable. I'd hate to think I would NEVER eat Biscuits and Sausage gravy again... When I was younger and my diet was very strict I had a cheat day to help reset my metabolism. Now I just have a meal every once in a while to keep my sanity. Also, you can get creative by changing things like Keto biscuits or maybe a lean hamburger gravy to help the macros. Depends on your current goals I imagine but remember this is still your life.

 

[CJ Smalls]

My goal to get to 220 lbs. caps Calories at 1932, Protein at 220, Carbs at 166 and Fat at 43.

2 Pro Shakes with Milk, 3 Yogurts, 4 Eggs, 224g Chicken and 4 oz. of Juice for the Creatine puts me about 200 under Calories, 1 over on Protein, 3 over on Fat, and 78 under on Carbs.

Drop the protein shakes, replace them with real food, quality protein sources. Add in a carb source to make it a complete meal and to hit your carb goal. You'll feel more satiated with real food vs liquid calories, it'll make this fat loss process easier.

I know about the Calorie deficit and that's how to trim Fat, but that's all I know. Why count Carbs and Fat if it's totaled in the Calories anyway?

For the vast majority of people, carbs vs fats doean't matter. Calories and adequate protein are by far the most important considerations.

I'd suggest to not go to extremes though, avoid going very low/high carb or fat, stick to moderate.

I could eat this plan for Months because I don't ever eat out thanks to wicked unsanitary conditions, so I know how to make everything. I can't eat anything others have of course, but I don't have the craving temptations people usually do. I can drink 8 shots of Whiskey before I finish typing this, or I can go Years with full bottles in the cabinet. The same applies to everything like Ice Cream and Pizza and etc.

So, is what I just invented what people ACTUALLY do, or do you all wing it and add up as you go? If I have to reformulate every couple of weeks, fine... I can't reinvent the Wheel every day though, that would drive me up the wall and I would quickly fail.

Most people eat the same 5-10 meals over and over again. It makes tracking incredibly easy, as we are creatures of habit, and have a base template of meals already. Once you log and save these meals, it's just a click to enter that meal in the future.

 

[Yano]

But Man, what a Pain! I guess I will have my scale at Thanksgiving and Christmas and weigh out the Lean Turkey and nibble on it like an Aphid! It's my Party and I'll cry if I want to!

Nope , don't do it.

No one understands us as it is , don't isolate yourself or family by carrying a scale with you to holiday and family events.

You want to be part of the events not make them about you , it causes resentment and animosity.

At first it's "neat" after that ,, you are annoying.

Pick and choose your portion amounts but enjoy friends , family and the day. You can't get fat enjoying Christmas or Thanksgiving if the rest of the month you're point.

 

[Hillbilly Weak]

Drop the protein shakes, replace them with real food, quality protein sources. Add in a carb source to make it a complete meal and to hit your carb goal. You'll feel more satiated with real food vs liquid calories, it'll make this fat loss process easier.

Well, the only Foods that I know could replace the 100 Protein from the shakes is 4.5 more servings of Chicken, which drops the calories by 400, or almost 4 servings of Cottage Cheese, which drops the calories by 188. On the other side, Lentils increase calories by 303 and Farro increases by a whopping 1977.

I don't understand why I would want to hit the Carbs at 166. Why would I want that if trying to cut fat?

For the vast majority of people, carbs vs fats doean't matter. Calories and adequate protein are by far the most important considerations.

I'd suggest to not go to extremes though, avoid going very low/high carb or fat, stick to moderate.

I assume you mean for the Weightlifting crowd that doesn't have a Tire around their waist. I get the Protein and Calories need when I'm done with the Tire, but only understand the Protein part now.

Most people eat the same 5-10 meals over and over again. It makes tracking incredibly easy, as we are creatures of habit, and have a base template of meals already. Once you log and save these meals, it's just a click to enter that meal in the future.

Ok. That's good. I'm there even with food I shouldn't eat.

 

[Hillbilly Weak]

Nope , don't do it.

No one understands us as it is , don't isolate yourself or family by carrying a scale with you to holiday and family events.

You want to be part of the events not make them about you , it causes resentment and animosity.

At first it's "neat" after that ,, you are annoying.

Pick and choose your portion amounts but enjoy friends , family and the day. You can't get fat enjoying Christmas or Thanksgiving if the rest of the month you're point.

Wow, you must be in a nice loving family. We all strive to annoy each other. I get what you're saying though, but I still cant eat any of the sides, it will vanquish the entire Month to go before Thanksgiving. So, from here on out I'm either being good or there's no point with 2 Giant feasts ahead.

 

[Yano]

Wow, you must be in a nice loving family. We all strive to annoy each other. I get what you're saying though, but I still cant eat any of the sides, it will vanquish the entire Month to go before Thanksgiving. So, from here on out I'm either being good or there's no point with 2 Giant feasts ahead.

No I have a long diagnosed history of uncontrollable blinding violence with my IED so I try not put folks into positions that can set it off accidentally like giving me dirty looks about weighing my food haahahaha

 

[Hillbilly Weak]

HAHAHA... I'm going to do it now, and have a Kid sized fork and Knife to cut off a portion of the Turkey... "Nope, that's 23 grams too much... Nope, still 15 grams too much, they don't make these scales like they used to. I think my batteries are about to go... Anybody have some Double A's?"

As I put a few pieces of Turkey back on the serving tray...

PERFECT!

 

[gunslinger]

You can do whatever you like but if you start posting about calorie counting or macros at least 60-70% of the people on here will tell you that you are doing it wrong. (You know, because counting calories and macros requires a PHd)
A few years ago I literally posted every single thing I ate on this board and still was called a liar...lol Let me share some gems with you.


"You will die without carbs"

"You have to have fiber! Its an essential nutrient!" (Even though fiber is NOT a nutrient and certainly NOT essential)

"The only way to lose weight is a caloric deficit"

"There was a guy who lost weight eating twinkies"

"My buddy got ripped for his show by eating donuts and popeyes chicken"


There are like 2-3 regulars on this board who know fuckall about nutrition. About 95% parrot what they have been told in their nutrition class in college. Yes the above are real quotes from people on here who are giving nutritional advice.

 

[CJ Smalls]

Well, the only Foods that I know could replace the 100 Protein from the shakes is 4.5 more servings of Chicken, which drops the calories by 400, or almost 4 servings of Cottage Cheese, which drops the calories by 188. On the other side, Lentils increase calories by 303 and Farro increases by a whopping 1977.

If chicken and cottage cheese are the only protein sources that you know, you have a long way to go.

I don't understand why I would want to hit the Carbs at 166. Why would I want that if trying to cut fat?

Dude, you are the one who said that you were under your carb goal, not me.

I assume you mean for the Weightlifting crowd that doesn't have a Tire around their waist.

No I mean for almost everyone.

I get the Protein and Calories need when I'm done with the Tire, but only understand the Protein part now.

Ok. That's good. I'm there even with food I shouldn't eat.