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bowly

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Nov 21, 2010
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guys have a receeding hairline and am gyno prone..

will test e at 300 for 10 weeks with tbol 60/day for 6 weeks be a good cycle..

what gains can i expect considering that i will be taking adex at .5mg e3 day..
 
FlyingDragon

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The simple answer to this ? is your going to have gains, how much depends on many other factors. Training, diet, sleep, current health, all play a big role in how well you will perform on the cycle above. More is not always better! Your cycle is very conservative, some may argue its not enough. I think its plenty to show some decent gains. Good luck!
 
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bowly

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The simple answer to this ? is your going to have gains, how much depends on many other factors. Training, diet, sleep, current health, all play a big role in how well you will perform on the cycle above. More is not always better! Your cycle is very conservative, some may argue its not enough. I think its plenty to show some decent gains. Good luck!

hey dragon,,thanks,,very positive
 
pux888

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I agree with FD, I think you can make very respectable progress on a low dose cycle....much more so than if you were all natural. Diet, recovery, and training will be the key!
 
MAYO

MAYO

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I'm with FD too. My cruz dose is almost identical to your Test E mg/wk and I have seen big jumps in progress while on cruz. I think it's because my mentality becomes so much more driven as I know I do not have all the extra "help" as when on cycle.
 
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bowly

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great replies guys...will proviron at 50mg ed be of any assistance or will it be too much estro suppression with adex e3d
 
captaincaveman

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I did almost that exact cycle. Unreal gains. BUT, I was in really good cardio shape, had lost a lot of weight, and had been lifting a few months when I hit the AAS. And, had been off for a long, long time.

As FG said, LOTS of other factors make the difference. Sticking and swallowing with no prep or research will disappoint you.

It sounds like you have looked into it tho brother. Good luck.

guys have a receeding hairline and am gyno prone..

will test e at 300 for 10 weeks with tbol 60/day for 6 weeks be a good cycle..

what gains can i expect considering that i will be taking adex at .5mg e3 day..
 
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bowly

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Nov 21, 2010
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I did almost that exact cycle. Unreal gains. BUT, I was in really good cardio shape, had lost a lot of weight, and had been lifting a few months when I hit the AAS. And, had been off for a long, long time.

As FG said, LOTS of other factors make the difference. Sticking and swallowing with no prep or research will disappoint you.

It sounds like you have looked into it tho brother..

great to hear that captain..this will be my 4th cycle but first one for injectible test..what other ancillaries you took with the cycle and what was ur pct like..
 
captaincaveman

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I did almost that exact cycle. Unreal gains. BUT, I was in really good cardio shape, had lost a lot of weight, and had been lifting a few months when I hit the AAS. And, had been off for a long, long time.

As FG said, LOTS of other factors make the difference. Sticking and swallowing with no prep or research will disappoint you.

It sounds like you have looked into it tho brother..

great to hear that captain..this will be my 4th cycle but first one for injectible test..what other ancillaries you took with the cycle and what was ur pct like..

I did it a little different this time.
PCT Prep:
2 Weeks Before End of Cycle: hcg @ 500IUs 3 times a week
1 Week Before End of Cycle: hcg @ 500IUs 3 times a week
First Week post-cycle: hcg @ 500IUs 2 times a week

After preparing for PCT with the HCG....
Days 1-28: nolva @ 20mg ED (Novla can be bumped to 40 if you arent feeling it.)
Days 1-28: aromasin @ 20mg ED

I am 4 weeks in to the above. Would like to hear someone's definition of "recovered" for a +40 year old guy? Nut size, "nut size," or what?

My next cycle which will be my third in a long long time, I will do no orals. The sides just aren't worth it. Plus, I am trying to look good and feel good. Not trying to compete. I started at 190...got as high as 227...and am back down to about 215-220. Fine for me at 6'3" or so.

I am sure someone will tear me up for my PCT. There are SO MANY opinions on this....HCG during, HCG after, no HCG etc...7 days, 14 days, long ester, short ester. You have to find what works for you and do your homework.

There you go bro. Dropped my shorts! LOL
 
Deacon

Deacon

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Oct 29, 2010
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I did it a little different this time.
PCT Prep:
2 Weeks Before End of Cycle: hcg @ 500IUs 3 times a week
1 Week Before End of Cycle: hcg @ 500IUs 3 times a week
First Week post-cycle: hcg @ 500IUs 2 times a week

After preparing for PCT with the HCG....
Days 1-28: nolva @ 20mg ED (Novla can be bumped to 40 if you arent feeling it.)
Days 1-28: aromasin @ 20mg ED

I am 4 weeks in to the above. Would like to hear someone's definition of "recovered" for a +40 year old guy? Nut size, "nut size," or what?

My next cycle which will be my third in a long long time, I will do no orals. The sides just aren't worth it. Plus, I am trying to look good and feel good. Not trying to compete. I started at 190...got as high as 227...and am back down to about 215-220. Fine for me at 6'3" or so.

I am sure someone will tear me up for my PCT. There are SO MANY opinions on this....HCG during, HCG after, no HCG etc...7 days, 14 days, long ester, short ester. You have to find what works for you and do your homework.

There you go bro. Dropped my shorts! LOL

I wont tear it up but I advise you use the nolva only and skip the aromasin for PCT
 
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bowly

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Nov 21, 2010
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for my last cycle i did hcg from the 8th week till the 13th week and my nuts were fine...for an earlier cycle with test cream did not do hcg and my nuts shrunk big time..

but the way i feel hcg is counter productive in pct because when you off androgens you want to jump start the lh production and hcg mimicks lh..so it wont let the testis restore functions and will just maintain size..

plus when we trying to get estrogen in control hcg will add on to the estrogen kitty..

just my 2 cents..but your gains were awesome..

with that low test did you really need 20mgs aromasin..

I did it a little different this time.
PCT Prep:
2 Weeks Before End of Cycle: hcg @ 500IUs 3 times a week
1 Week Before End of Cycle: hcg @ 500IUs 3 times a week
First Week post-cycle: hcg @ 500IUs 2 times a week

After preparing for PCT with the HCG....
Days 1-28: nolva @ 20mg ED (Novla can be bumped to 40 if you arent feeling it.)
Days 1-28: aromasin @ 20mg ED

I am 4 weeks in to the above. Would like to hear someone's definition of "recovered" for a +40 year old guy? Nut size, "nut size," or what?

My next cycle which will be my third in a long long time, I will do no orals. The sides just aren't worth it. Plus, I am trying to look good and feel good. Not trying to compete. I started at 190...got as high as 227...and am back down to about 215-220. Fine for me at 6'3" or so.

I am sure someone will tear me up for my PCT. There are SO MANY opinions on this....HCG during, HCG after, no HCG etc...7 days, 14 days, long ester, short ester. You have to find what works for you and do your homework.

There you go bro. Dropped my shorts! LOL
 
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