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Oct 30, 2010
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Hello everyone,

First time poster here. I have been reading through the sections for a few days before registering and there appears to be many intelligent people here who are more than happy to give sound advice to those who need it.

I have only done one previous cycle, which was 500mg of sustanon for 10 weeks followed by off time and PCT. My second cycle (which I am currently on), involves 500mg of test e per week in conjunction with 20mg of dbol as a kick start during the first 4 weeks. The longer ester meant less frequent injections and seems to be preferred by most users.

I'm looking to add something else this time to maximize gains whilst on. EQ and deca come to mind, but EQ requires a high dose to get solid gains and deca is said to be suppressive and has sexual side effects.

What would you recommend?

Carefully considering all replies.

Thank you.
 
bigrobbie

bigrobbie

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NPP is a good Nandrolone that, IMO, would be a good 2nd cycle medium ester that can get you some good results without the higher doses and longer cycle time required by EQ...I think 8 weeks of NPP @ 300-400mg/wk will give you what you are looking for...
 
chicken_hawk

chicken_hawk

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I think your gonna have to realize that when you use any AAS there is going to be some suppression and it can vary according to the individual. Personally I prefer deca when bulking, but need to keep some cialis handy yet for me EQ even at 900mg EW does not compare to 5 or 600mg Deca. You may also consider Tren as it is the best oil IMO and if used moderately has minimal sides. However, most vets tell one to steer clear, but do your research and I think you will find it to be a very nice addition.

Stay safe,
Hawk
 
bigrobbie

bigrobbie

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I wanted to advise using Tren too, but I'm not sure someone on their 2nd cycle should jump on the "Tren Wagon"...Not that it would be a bad thing, in fact I love Tren, but I like people to be very knowledgable before using Tren. I agree 100% that EQ and Deca can't really be compared, but he seems to want to use a Nandro, and I think NPP would be a smarter choice for a 2nd cycler than Tren...just my opinion.

If you opt for Tren bro, I'd have a back up just in case you can't handle the sides that Trenbolone can cause. Some can't handle the night sweats, added aggression, and all round "head trip" some users experience with Tren.
 
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Oct 30, 2010
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Thanks for the informative replies so far guys. I also thought about tren beforehand. I will most definitely consider it after doing further research.

On a side note, what do you think of peptide hormones? (wrong forum I know, only quick question). I have access to GHRP-6 & CJC-1295. I can reconstitute them myself and having read the peptide guide in the appropriate section, would be able to stack them together at 100mcg of each daily. Half post workout for recovery and half before bed for sleep. Combined with say 500mg test and 250mg deca (2:1 ratio), it might be a crazy combination.
 
Deacon

Deacon

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Oct 29, 2010
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I think that for a second cycle test with a moderate dose of deca is good - or EQ if you want leaner drier gains - but I would avoid tren for the second time user - tren should be saved for much later
 
AWARE72

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On a side note, what do you think of peptide hormones? (wrong forum I know, only quick question). I have access to GHRP-6 & CJC-1295. I can reconstitute them myself and having read the peptide guide in the appropriate section, would be able to stack them together at 100mcg of each daily. Half post workout for recovery and half before bed for sleep. Combined with say 500mg test and 250mg deca (2:1 ratio), it might be a crazy combination.

I think that is good plan addition not crazy at all....I'm limited with funds so I've choosen to dose 50mcg of Mod GRF(1-29) and 100mcg of GHRP-2 twice day. Since I don't weight train and do cardio on the same day. I dose pre fasted cardio, post training and prebed....
 
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I think that is good plan addition not crazy at all....I'm limited with funds so I've choosen to dose 50mcg of Mod GRF(1-29) and 100mcg of GHRP-2 twice day. Since I don't weight train and do cardio on the same day. I dose pre fasted cardio, post training and prebed....

Sounds good. I just spent enough money for a month of CJC-1295 (DAC), combined with GHRP-6 at the full dosages. I sincerely hope this is long enough to witness some sort of positive effect. After recon I will preload all the syringes and freeze everything in air tight bags, then just take out what I need, when I need them.
 
AWARE72

AWARE72

MuscleHead
Oct 17, 2010
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Sounds good. I just spent enough money for a month of CJC-1295 (DAC), combined with GHRP-6 at the full dosages. I sincerely hope this is long enough to witness some sort of positive effect. After recon I will preload all the syringes and freeze everything in air tight bags, then just take out what I need, when I need them.

Peptides are more of long term thing...You will proably notice improved sleep and hunger with ther ghrp-6 right away.(I have only used GHRP-2) Just be sure to dose on an empty stomach or only while you have protien in you as carbs and fats will blunt the release of GH. Also you should work you way up to saturation dose. I'd start with once a day prebed with just GHRP then add in GHRH and then increase your dose up to saturation dose, then add additional doses per day. This is done to avoid side effects and allow your body to adjust. JMO...
 
chicken_hawk

chicken_hawk

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The first time I ran peptides I ran saturation dose 1X ED and I did notice that I managed to stay leaner when bulking and less aching in the joints and at nearly 40 that helps in the gym. I would suggest using GRF-1 as your GHRH as well. However, it was for 3 months which to me would be a minimum.

Stay safe,
Hawk
 
Deacon

Deacon

Old School Meso Vet
Oct 29, 2010
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never used peptides myself - have heard some mixed reviews - kind of negative from hardcore gera users but guys who have not cycled have liked them - more than likely they disapoint most gear heads
 
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Thanks for the advice gentlemen.

How do you recommend the peptides be stored (unconstituted with just powder in the vial)?

Fridge, freezer or ambient room temp?
 
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