May 2, 2017 Hear me out for a moment before you jump all over me. Generally speaking, for the average person, I truly believe that Keto diets are a plague. Without a basic understanding of diet, understanding calorie and macro manipulation, individual needs and goals, and being able to make an informed decision on what it is best, makes Keto just an absolutely horrible choice for your average dieter. When you are a competitive BBer, prepping for a show or just trying to get very, very low, Keto can be very helpful. A lot of these folks know what they are doing, and understand Keto is a "temporary diet". Most average folks don't know enough though. They default to Keto when, in fact, it's usually a horrible option for them. Hell, I know a few lifters like this too, but that's another rant... A conversation I had with someone the other day via text... *Hey, I heard you fast in the morning. *Yes, I do. I do intermittent fasting. Be aware though, IF is only an eating schedule. It's not an actual diet. It's impact on fat loss if more for overcoming the mental and physiological aspects of dieting, i.e. Hunger. My actual diet is flexible eating. I meet calorie and macro requirements for the day, and I can choose from a much larger choice of foods, not all of which are healthy, but will still help me lose fat. *Ok, thanks. I am doing low carb/Keto, so I don't need to track anything. See, had she just said from the beginning she has no idea what she's doing and doesn't want advice to learn more, I wouldn;t have wasted my time even replying in the first place. This is why she is obese and will never lose the weight she wants to lose. She, as well as many others, just believe you eat low carb and eat as much fat and protein as you want an it will automatically make you lose fat. I digress. I wish it would just go away and wish Keto would have just been left to the bodybuilding world. I just don't believe it really has any place in the general public. Sure, we could argue special cases (morbid obesity, for instance), but that's not what I am referring to.