I have been lifting for over 20 years. I like these sites and have been involved in others for the information provided. I have always been natural but thinking about changing that next week. I have always used a lot of supplements and have had good luck with some. I have fou it is kind of pick and choose. I do enjoy Iron Den and check it almost daily. I train for size and strength and have been successful. I am 5'10" and about 215.