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Interesting new study on HDL

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thehulk

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The article doesn’t quite match the study which was called

Race-Dependent Association of High-Density Lipoprotein Cholesterol Levels With Incident Coronary Artery Disease​


One of the key observations was that low HDL levels were tied to a somewhat higher risk of heart attack among White people. That was not the case for Black adults, however.

If researchers just used simple terms the title of this paper would be called

“Black folks *might not* have to worry about low HDL so much”

LOL
 
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aritcle, "As for low HDL, Pamir said the steps recommended for raising it are good ones: They include exercise, quitting smoking, and avoiding "trans" fats in processed foods."

lol. When I see bro's at the gym that have been going for a long time and still look the same then during a conversation a simple question, "What are you doing this weekend?" Their response is, "pounding brews". Then these people wonder why they look like shit and skin looks like sand paper.
 
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thehulk

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aritcle, "As for low HDL, Pamir said the steps recommended for raising it are good ones: They include exercise, quitting smoking, and avoiding "trans" fats in processed foods."

lol. When I see bro's at the gym that have been going for a long time and still look the same then during a conversation a simple question, "What are you doing this weekend?" Their response is, "pounding brews". Then these people wonder why they look like shit and skin looks like sand paper.
LOL…have a buddy/old training partner that was like that. Couple times a week he’d role in smelling like Budweiser. Eventually he quit drinking, gains exploded, became a pretty damn good powerlifter.
 
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Generally, “good” (varies) HDL in unison with low trig, and larger particle LDL are the preferred profile on a lipid panel. Though particle size is not included in a standard lipid panel.
We see little about HDL other than the common knowledge of it being the “good” one that we want to see a higher value.
What we continually see is negative attention. given toward LDL (the “bad” cholesterol), when in fact it’s not “bad.” What IS bad is if our LDL is of the small particle variety in unison with low HDL and high trig.
 
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HDL isn't what we once thought it was relative to CAD risk. It is commonly cited as a negative when it comes to even just HRT, higher doses of T along with the other inj (non-C-17) drugs will have some suppressive effect on HDL, question is, does it really matter? Certainly if you're in the single digits and LDL/Trigs are sky high, you're in trouble, but if LDL/Trigs are under control, and HDL in the 30's, and short term 20's when on an oral, all other risk factors controlled (BP, HBA1c, family history, diet, etc.) as a stand alone probably has little effect on overall risk. Apo B measures are gaining traction above all other variables relative to CAD risk. Probably something we should all start looking at, even the HRT (200 - 300 mg/wk) esp mixed models including nandrolone and drostanolone should look at.
 
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