I Love Tren....Change my mind.

[GreatGunz]

It is all DHTs that affect the prostate, but mast usually gets the bad wrap because it is often dosed higher than the others and has a high binding affinity. I found it really boils down to how much test you are running. If you keep the test at a TRT dose or fairly low (under 300 mg), you can run your mast A LOT higher. I am talking 1.5 to 2 grams without any issues. I have even had guys do it that were suffering from male pattern baldness and it didn't cause any additional hair loss.

However, if you run the test up then even adding in a little mast opens you up for problems as the mast outbinds test to the androgen receptor leaving more testosterone to be converted. With mast being a dry compound nearly all the additional conversion is to DHT, where the problems occur.

Have u ever gotten the cough on Tren E?
I’ve only gotten the cough with acetate.
I may be misunderstanding you!?

 

[genetic freak]

Have u ever gotten the cough on Tren E?
I’ve only gotten the cough with acetate.
I may be misunderstanding you!?

As far as I know, you only get the cough from acetate. I have never had the cough and nearly every cycle was acetate.

 

[Heavy_Deads]

Love the results just always hated taking it. Night sweats and that damn cough….

 

[Yano]

The cough is from the acetate being too close to capillaries or a vein in theory as it was explained to me , the ester gets into the blood too fast , hits the lungs and ya hork it out like a mating seal , Ive had it happen a few times over the years , love my Ace when I run it. 500 test 400 mast 300 tren ace is one of the best runs ive ever made

 

[Megatron28]

We don’t have to change your mind about Tren. Tren itself will change your mind lol. It’s great until one day it isn’t. I always found that my body gave me clear signals when it was time to get off it.

 

[956Vette]

All I know is I have 10mL of tren on hand, and I am looking forward to using it, especially after reading this thread

Told myself I would not use again while married, perks of divorce

 

[ccpro]

At our ages if we must run it would be tren E 200 mg or less a week I have a run coming up and am going to run it at 150 a wk.

now masterone stay away from it unless you want prostate issues !

100mg of it a wk reminded me to toss it.
SFG also gave me shit because I missed it but he was spot on

Hmm...can you expand on the prostate issues? I've been running test c 125mg a week and mast e 100mg a week. Feels good, great pumps and muscles stay hard but I was concerned about prostate. I pee slow, there I said it! After blood test, cancer markers, pee flow test, etc. PSA, Prostate good, I just pee like half the rate! Didn't know you had drawn a correlation yourself. I know many other factors could present this but looking back my timeline with mast is about right? Test 785, Estradiol 27 with anastrozole. Probably dumb question just asking. 12 minute pee here... BTW...didn't mean to get off topic, I'm liking the tren e less than 100mgs a week. I've been thinking about for awhile.

 

[genetic freak]

Hmm...can you expand on the prostate issues? I've been running test c 125mg a week and mast e 100mg a week. Feels good, great pumps and muscles stay hard but I was concerned about prostate. I pee slow, there I said it! After blood test, cancer markers, pee flow test, etc. PSA, Prostate good, I just pee like half the rate! Didn't know you had drawn a correlation yourself. I know many other factors could present this but looking back my timeline with mast is about right? Test 785, Estradiol 27 with anastrozole. Probably dumb question just asking. 12 minute pee here... BTW...didn't mean to get off topic, I'm liking the tren e less than 100mgs a week. I've been thinking about for awhile.

High levels of DHT can cause prostatic hyperplasia. The mast is really not the problem. It is what mast forces testosterone to do that is the problem. Mast has already been 5-a reduced. Meaning, by itself, it does not increase DHT levels. However, mast has a high binding affinity to the androgen receptor; higher than testosterone. This is why we have so much free test using mast. That extra testosterone will be either aromatized to estrogen or reduced to DHT. Since mast can prevent aromatization, you get a high conversion to DHT.

Even with a total test of 785 ng/dl, your free test is likely high and you may have high DHT.

 

[CesarIM]

Used to make tren ace out of finaplix back in the day. that was the real deal shit. ran it for a bit . pissed brown,night sweats ,tren cough , not being able to bust a nut even with a rock hard bonner lol.
That was about 15 yrs ago.lol
Have not had the desire to run that compound again.
Just gave a tren/eq 400 combo away.
My prolactin gets whacked out .

 

[Ron OG Mouse]

Used to make tren ace out of finaplix back in the day. that was the real deal shit. ran it for a bit . pissed brown,night sweats

Your giving me DNP flash backs. All the yellow sweat. My wife would kill me if I got DNP sweats all over her house now.

 

[GreatGunz]

Ok better explanation !
But I do not use it anymore it’s like trying to piss with a boner!
Lol

 

[Littleguy]

I stay on 200mg Test E/C and 200mg Tren E per week. Treats me well.

Did this for years worked Great I thought, dropped Tren after April and started taking 1500 mcgs of SLUPP per day got my energy back and never lost a thing, used to SWEAR by long term low dose tren but now I think it is long term SLOW poison that builds up over time.
I am gonna be 60 in 3 months and am leary of anything fucking me up without a massive return on investment/risk.
A shit ton of peptides etc out there and cheap GH that I personally feel are likely better and safer alternatives than a drug designed for cattle over 30 years ago.
Just my 2cc's and a different perspective, will I ever use it again? Not sure as I have a gallon or 2 of it laying around but I seriously was NOT getting out of it what I used to and I was swapping around on 3 different trusted and safe labs back and forth, maybe I had been on it too long and had receptor downgrade or something.
Either way at your age with no stage plans I would keep it low (200Mg of E) or try other stuff altogether.
Cheers