I agree Shortz about the physique guys other then the stupid shorts that are more close to the old school bodybuilder look. My big grip with physique is it has to many douche like pretty boys club kids thinking they are shit or this is an abercombie and fitch photo shoot. I feel the class has potential but it is lacking that displaying the body as a work of art that old school bodybuilding had. However with the current Physique O and most of the top 5 the more serious ones seems to placed higher. So hopefully it will purge out the trash and make it a competition of worth down the road.