Homebrew Inj L-Carnitine

[Anita Blumpkin]

The reason I was injecting it for such a long period of time is its supposed ability to upregulate androgen receptors. I kept the faith but not once ever experienced anything that I felt could be attributed to that protocol. I later found out something else that does actually upregulate androgen receptors... more androgens. At that time, I wasn't in a position to even begin to try and use it for its usual purpose of that last-mile fat loss.

Ya I may have heard that to someplace, but mainly just that it uses fat vs glucose for fuel so I would like to utilize that aspect for cutting phases. Also it contributes to heart health. Some trials showed it reverses HCM disease.
What else do you feel upregulated androgen receptors?

 

[beefnewton]

Ya I may have heard that to someplace, but mainly just that it uses fat vs glucose for fuel so I would like to utilize that aspect for cutting phases. Also it contributes to heart health. Some trials showed it reverses HCM disease.
What else do you feel upregulated androgen receptors?

Injecting more steroids.

 

[Thrawn]

The reason I was injecting it for such a long period of time is its supposed ability to upregulate androgen receptors. I kept the faith but not once ever experienced anything that I felt could be attributed to that protocol. I later found out something else that does actually upregulate androgen receptors... more androgens. At that time, I wasn't in a position to even begin to try and use it for its usual purpose of that last-mile fat loss.

I read that study about the androgen upgrade. If I recall it was less than 5%. I also remember the study specifically it said significant, significant in science does not mean significant in the way normal people the word.
Since you used it, what if anything did you notice? What dose were you at? How long did you use it?
I am very analytical, I realize people may hear me reference research data alot, I understand field use and lab/research can be very different. Research and published data is usually limited in scope, methodology may be faulty, test subjects are not like us, ect but the research is a starting point for me at least.

 

[Thrawn]

Very interesting! Oh course simple things are made into massive complex issues just like that!.
I need to learn a butt load more on all this stuff. My problem with on line research is I don't ask the right questions when looking for info. Hard to know where to start. I'm hear BA a lot but not sure what it is. Not clear on the difference types of L-car and what one is the right one. I can do math and follow a recipe but best to fully understand what each ingredient is and how is responds to others. The PH is talked about a lot.

Ba or BA =Benzoyl Alcohol
Bb or BB =Benzoyl Benzoate

This is a good description on acids and alkaline/bases

The pH Level in Chemistry Distinguishes Acids From Alkalines

Here is the definition of pH in chemistry, with examples of acidic and alkaline values of common household products and lab chemicals.

www.thoughtco.com

 

[Thrawn]

This was all the rage on Dat's forum. After all, he wrote one of the biggest puff pieces for Synthetek. There was this big staged freakout over existing sources' Carnitine solution being hypertonic (or was it hypo?), so along comes "Robust" aka Didacus to create a solution (pun intended) where a problem didn't exist... and of course charge a premium for it. He brought the pH down by using hydrochloric acid. I'm sure pH is a good thing to address, but they were all suddenly Chicken Little over it. The gaslighting attempt was obvious to me but not so much to others that clung to Dat's nuts. I brewed and injected my own for over a year using nothing but sterile water for injection, BA, and L-Carnitine base. No issues whatsoever. Nothing on labs. All of my blood cells didn't instantaneously implode upon injection (500mg daily).

On a previous post I missed your last paragraph here. But my other questions still apply. The FDA approved this in pill or intravenous use only, being IV may be the reason the ph needed to be adjusted. I'll measure the pH when I play with this just to see where it is.

 

[beefnewton]

On a previous post I missed your last paragraph here. But my other questions still apply. The FDA approved this in pill or intravenous use only, being IV may be the reason the ph needed to be adjusted. I'll measure the pH when I play with this just to see where it is.

Yea, I have a chronic problem with editing my posts rather than posting once.

 

[beefnewton]

I read that study about the androgen upgrade. If I recall it was less than 5%. I also remember the study specifically it said significant, significant in science does not mean significant in the way normal people the word.
Since you used it, what if anything did you notice? What dose were you at? How long did you use it?
I am very analytical, I realize people may hear me reference research data alot, I understand field use and lab/research can be very different. Research and published data is usually limited in scope, methodology may be faulty, test subjects are not like us, ect but the research is a starting point for me at least.

I injected daily well over a year at 500mg per day. The only thing I noticed was injection fatigue from injecting it daily for no perceivable results. I eventually said fuck it.

Here I go editing again.

It may be that it did something, but it just wasn't measurable. Like the antiaging cycles that involve Thymalin or Epithalon. I'm just not going to ever know if they do/did anything or not. Some get their telomere length measured, but I don't think that's been conclusively determined to be a factor in longevity.

 

[Thrawn]

I injected daily well over a year at 500mg per day. The only thing I noticed was injection fatigue from injecting it daily for no perceivable results. I eventually said fuck it.

Here I go editing again.

It may be that it did something, but it just wasn't measurable. Like the antiaging cycles that involve Thymalin or Epithalon. I'm just not going to ever know if they do/did anything or not. Some get their telomere length measured, but I don't think that's been conclusively determined to be a factor in longevity.

Complete side thought since you mentioned telomeres, dates and depths may be incorrect I would have to double check but dude lived underwater 90ft? For 2 months? His telomeres lengthened by 20%. I was doing something at the time so I only spent about 10 seconds on it. I'll look for it tonight.

 

[Thrawn]

I injected daily well over a year at 500mg per day. The only thing I noticed was injection fatigue from injecting it daily for no perceivable results. I eventually said fuck it.

Here I go editing again.

It may be that it did something, but it just wasn't measurable. Like the antiaging cycles that involve Thymalin or Epithalon. I'm just not going to ever know if they do/did anything or not. Some get their telomere length measured, but I don't think that's been conclusively determined to be a factor in longevity.

I suspected your results. Most studies saw a benefit on people with deficiency. I still want to experiment. I read some marketing propaganda about spot injection fat loss. No where did I find data to validate that. I still think l-c tartrate showed more benefit on paper. To do list is getting long

 

[Thrawn]

@beefnewton

https://greekreporter.com/2023/06/07/ageing-bottom-sea-dna/

 

[beefnewton]

Complete side thought since you mentioned telomeres, dates and depths may be incorrect I would have to double check but dude lived underwater 90ft? For 2 months? His telomeres lengthened by 20%. I was doing something at the time so I only spent about 10 seconds on it. I'll look for it tonight.

People are getting back crazy telomere lengths after even only one cycle of Epithalon... like lengths customary for those much, much younger... like in their 20's. But again, no one knows if that translates into any real benefit.

Edit: I've actually done two full cycles of both Thymalin, Epithalon, and GHk-Cu (injectable). I'm due for this year's cycle, but damned if I'm injecting GHk-Cu anymore. Fuck that pain... and the lumps last over a year sometimes.

 

[beefnewton]

@beefnewton

https://greekreporter.com/2023/06/07/ageing-bottom-sea-dna/

Interesting about the stem cell pool having increased in size. Longecity is just a hair short of being like Ray Peat. There's a guy there named Turnbuckle that sounds so knowledgeable (honestly on the fence about that). Supposedly, simple stearic acid can increase your stem cell pool. I tried it (you bake a lot of it into a pan of brownies), but it's another one of those things, how do I know if it did anything?