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jhotsauce7

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Well over the past few years my bp has crept up. Both on and off. Finally got to the point where I really needed to medicate.
started wirh lisinopril, that didn’t play well with me. Lots of dizziness, then to Hctz, and then most recently HTCZ + losartan.
Day two on this combo and measured 116/78... best reading I’ve had in a long ass time. pretty happy with this.. trying to focus on overall health and longevity these days.

how many of y’all had to go down this road and finally medicate BP? Part of it for me is def genetics but also my weight has yoyo around a bit these past few years, cutting and bulking and then being an injured fat ass during covid.
 
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Luckily no issues so far and my fathers side of the family always had horrible blood pressure, most likely to the way old school ginnys fried everything, who knows.

Good luck, sounds like this new combo is working, now if it helps you with your gheyness you will be all set.
 
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I’m on losartan 50mg Ed. Mine was always 140 and he wanted to bring it down, now I’m 117/80 even while running dbol and drol, high bp makes the kidneys work harder and your insides, so if you can relax them, bigger gains for you! So many people have no clue what they are running bp wise and it’s so bad.
 
rawdeal

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Both parents had good genes, but also some bp issues. Don't know how long I've had it but was first diagnosed after I was 40yo, running around 140/90. Been on Irbesartan 150 ever since and hover around 120/70 ever since. First script was a blend with hctz, but my more recent doc didn't like that my blood work always had me (slightly) low on sodium + chloride, even though I abuse table salt, so he dropped the hctz part. There has been no change in my bp, my Na+ or my Cl- since dropping the hctz, lol.
 
DungeonDweller

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My doc put me on 50mg Losartan a few years back. About a year ago he upped it to 100mg a day. I check my blood pressure most days while on a cycle (like right now Test Tren DNP Clen T3) and I am borderline high again... I don't believe I'm bloated though I am on DNP, and I have some HCTZ, but I may sneak an extra half Losartan (50mg) and see what that does.

I think my bp is because of age and genetics mostly, though I think they say lifting heavy over a long time can cause hardening too.
 
The other Snake

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A low dose of Losartan did it for me. I was always borderline with 130-135/ 75. As we age, that systolic is the problem more than the diastolic. My only problem is the drug drops my diastolic down too. Sometimes I come in at 120/60.

There's a lot to be said for controlling your BP by staying lean but when all else fails, these drugs have been time tested and can really extend your laps around the sun.
 
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Low dose lisinopril and beta blocker (propranolol). Does the trick, no sides in lower doses. With BPH I also use flomax and cialis, so the combination of everything together keeps me in the low 120's/70's. Watch the HCTZ when you get older. Just had a friend develop acute renal failure, cause was the HCTZ. If using a diuretic, watch your HCT if on HRT or other AAS esp in the Summer. Staying lean is also very important. Just 8 lb of fat bumps me up about 10 mm average mean BP. I find lisinopril helps with the pulse pressure that increases with age. Controlling BP is critical, a co-factor in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and diastolic dysfunction esp when combine with AAS.
 
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I went full KETO for the last 40 days and am down 26 pounds and dont need my BP meds at all anymore. I have learned so much from the doctor, Dr, Gundry, and his book diet evolution. Its been amazing! I am working out to keep my base, but I dont need pretty muscles, I need longevity, good strength, and high mobility. Its well worth the read or like I do, listen.
 
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I went full KETO for the last 40 days and am down 26 pounds and dont need my BP meds at all anymore. I have learned so much from the doctor, Dr, Gundry, and his book diet evolution. Its been amazing! I am working out to keep my base, but I dont need pretty muscles, I need longevity, good strength, and high mobility. Its well worth the read or like I do, listen.
The significant decrease of carbs, along with the subsequent weight loss is the primary reason for decreased BP. Dropping carbs significantly and consistently, lowers BP.
Good job, keep it up.
 
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Wilson6

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My experience is fat loss, regardless of how you do it will drop BP. If Keto works and you can live on it, go for it but in the end, more fat = higher BP and inflammation and that is never a good thing for the kidneys or cardiovascular system esp in conjunction with HRT or more than HRT. I've been listening to some of Victor Black's pod casts. The guy is very well read in the lit, you may not like what he has to say but since I'm a lit based guy, he makes quite a bit of sense. For BP control, I switched to an ARB vs the ACEi. Telmisartan specifically. Same concept, block ANG II from binding to the receptor vs lowering ANG II, either way ANG II leads to negative cardiac remodeling esp with AAS along with ROS that all AAS will increase. The interesting secondary effect of Telmisartan is the modulation of PPAR-gamma that regulates insulin and glucose metabolism, plus it has positive effects on blood lipids. It is also potentially a myostatin blocker. If you're using AAS for HRT or more, running TEL in a dose you can tolerate makes alot of sense along with a solid anti-oxidant intake. If you are in it for the long haul, understanding how the serious negative sides manifest with AAS use, even moderate dosing, doing what you can to mitigate them is pretty important.
 
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