He did it... He stepped out of the race

[Yano]

Don't wish to be too argumentative, but what data are you getting for the all-time low border crossings? Is this official ICE or immigration gov't data? It's my understanding it's been the exact opposite.

Crime in every major city is down? In LA? In Chicago? In Minneapolis? In Baltimore? In St. Louis? Maybe the crime statistics are defined differently, but I'd be interested is seeing some real data on this.

Total policy failures: The Abraham Accords? There was peace in the Middle East after everyone said he would cause WWIII. Now we're dealing with Ukraine, Gaza and sabre rattling by China towards Taiwan. Unemployment in the black and hispanic communities were at all-time lows before the pandemic. I think they were happier then than now. I wonder if anyone has asked them?

Was Iran pulling more shit during the Trump administration or during the Biden administration?

I won't argue with anyone that Trump is a narcissist. But most politicians are. At least he makes fun of the media and makes them lose their minds. That's gotta be worth something! LOL

Trump is and was a complete and total failure .. the Abraham Accords ? haaahahaah what trash Trumps help destroying Israel and Gaza ,, were so proud.

There was never peace in the middle east since the antisemite nations created Israel after WW2 because none of the allied nations wanted the jews ,, my family escaped the Nazis. Only reason I exist is my great grandmother escaped the Krakow ghettos and hid under a train. Not many folks realize this but Poland was the home of the jews for hundreds of years , not palestine.

All trump did was fuck up the middle east.

Look at the crime statistics for each city. its easy to google.

"The Major Cities Police Association's Violent Crime Survey found double-digit declines in homicide across nearly 70 of America's largest cities in 2023 compared 2022 - "

China was always going to go after Taiwan , and it will no matter who is in office when its ready ,, China has been around 3000 years ,, no one is going to stop it.

Iran has pulled shit since Trump attacked and assasinated a general of theirs .. thats what started it all .. and dont get me started on his botched fucked up withdrawal of Iraq he blames on Biden. Or this money that trump is screaming Biden gave Iran , it was Irans money , they met all the requirements made by international law and it was released but never delivered .. thats right , they still havent gotten the 8 billion that Trump screams they have .... again another of his deluded lies for attention.

Trump is a complete retard and its a shame so many people fall for his bullshit.

 

[Tuffoldman]

The crime numbers are down and all the cities you've listed. And the reason they're down is they're not prosecuting people anymore.


Look at all the Democrat major cities they all have laws now saying if you still under $1,000 the cops won't do anything. I just saw an expose on New York City where robbers will walk up to sidewalk patrons eating dinner at nice upscale restaurants and Rob them in broad daylight and the cops don't do a thing about it or can't do a thing about it cuz it's happening too much. They don't go after the people and if you don't go after the criminals the crime rates appear to be down. Now are they really down very doubtful. I live in a very up and coming City it's been relatively low on crime up until truly 5 years ago and now it's really exploded. It would be one murder you might hear about once a month or every other month and now you're hearing about shootings and murders almost every single day. We're nowhere near what Chicago is but we have murders every single day. We're luckily still a republican run City and the police are not hamstrung by stupid laws made by progressives that think that it's everybody else's fault except for the person committing the crime. They do go after the criminals of course what happens after that is up to the DA but I don't believe for one minute that crime is down I believe that we're just not tracking true crime I think all we're tracking now is what the actually prosecute.

 

[Tuffoldman]

The perception that violent crime trends are influenced by changes in data collection or reporting methods is a common concern. Here are some key points to consider:

1. **Data Collection and Reporting**: Changes in how crimes are classified, reported, or recorded can affect crime statistics. For example, if law enforcement agencies implement new systems or policies that alter how incidents are categorized (e.g., distinguishing between different types of assault), this can influence reported crime rates.

2. **Crime Reporting Rates**: Crime statistics can be impacted by the willingness of victims to report crimes. Efforts to encourage reporting or improved trust between communities and law enforcement can lead to an increase in reported crimes, even if the actual crime rate hasn't changed.

3. **Contextual Factors**: Crime rates are influenced by various factors, including economic conditions, policing strategies, community programs, and social changes. A decrease in violent crimes could reflect the success of such measures rather than changes in reporting.

4. **Independent Audits and Studies**: Independent audits and studies conducted by researchers or non-governmental organizations can help verify the accuracy of crime statistics and provide insights into whether reported trends reflect reality or changes in data collection methods.

While some discrepancies in crime data may arise from reporting and classification changes, consistent and significant trends over time are generally reflective of real changes in crime rates. It's important to consider the broader context and multiple data sources when assessing crime trends.

 

[Tuffoldman]

Black civil rights attorney Ben crump said it best when he said that he could make the USA crime free overnight. He said how he would do it was change the definition of crime so the things that people are doing now that we call criminal would no longer be a crime and it would be zero crime. Now I'm paraphrasing but that's basically what he said. He said the reason that there's so much crimes because everything that people do wrong is considered a crime. So to my above post if we change robbery to being something less than what it is that it's not a crime? You kill somebody and you don't say it's murder it's still a crime correct?


Unless we formally make smashed and grabs, armed robberies, murder, muggings, carjackings, flash mob robberies, etc etc crimes that I think saying that crime rates are down is total BS.

 

[Tuffoldman]

 

[Rider]

What's weird with the above polling is that when looking at the individual "swing" states, the numbers have NOT moved. So Trump's lead in states like AZ, NV, WI, MI, PA, GA are still pretty big. The only explanation I have is that Kamala has invigorated the progressives in strong blue states like CA, IL, NY, etc. Unfortunately for the Dems, having Kamala win by a bigger margin in CA does not help her. She needs to hold VA, and grap at least half of those swing states.

Thanks Tommy, that’s a good analysis and it makes sense. Where do you go to get the poll numbers for the swing states?

 

[Yano]

I do not trust Al Sharpton fuck that guy , I remember all that Tawana Brawley bullshit he tried to pull over on America.

 

[Tuffoldman]

I still believe America is the best country in the world. I still have a lot of patriotism towards the country but not towards the leaders of our country.


I believe we're in the end days and we're all being tested. I know we're all looking for a particular sign but just look at the news it's me against you you against them them against us. We have no continuity we have no camaraderie we have no civil way of doing things and speaking to each other. The United States is turning into a giant toilet bowl run by giant turds. We can bitch and moan all we want it's not going to change a thing.

 

[tommyguns2]

Thanks Tommy, that’s a good analysis and it makes sense. Where do you go to get the poll numbers for the swing states?

go to realclearpolitics.com
Below the head-to-head numbers they have numbers for the individual battleground states.

 

[tommyguns2]

The perception that violent crime trends are influenced by changes in data collection or reporting methods is a common concern. Here are some key points to consider:

1. **Data Collection and Reporting**: Changes in how crimes are classified, reported, or recorded can affect crime statistics. For example, if law enforcement agencies implement new systems or policies that alter how incidents are categorized (e.g., distinguishing between different types of assault), this can influence reported crime rates.

2. **Crime Reporting Rates**: Crime statistics can be impacted by the willingness of victims to report crimes. Efforts to encourage reporting or improved trust between communities and law enforcement can lead to an increase in reported crimes, even if the actual crime rate hasn't changed.

3. **Contextual Factors**: Crime rates are influenced by various factors, including economic conditions, policing strategies, community programs, and social changes. A decrease in violent crimes could reflect the success of such measures rather than changes in reporting.

4. **Independent Audits and Studies**: Independent audits and studies conducted by researchers or non-governmental organizations can help verify the accuracy of crime statistics and provide insights into whether reported trends reflect reality or changes in data collection methods.

While some discrepancies in crime data may arise from reporting and classification changes, consistent and significant trends over time are generally reflective of real changes in crime rates. It's important to consider the broader context and multiple data sources when assessing crime trends.

People are bailing out of LA, SA, Oakland, Minneapolis, Baltimore, St. Louis, Seattle, etc. because crime rates are going down. LOL IMO, it's sad, because the rich and upper-middle class have the most flexibility in moving, and the poor and lower-middle class get shafted yet again. The progressive district attorneys, who claim to be for the little guy, sure seem to make things a lot tougher for all the little guys.

I heard on the radio a few weeks ago that Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell live is some fancy part of LA and they've had their house broken into twice over the past six months, and the second time it happened, she was actually there in the house. She indicated that they now have armed security on the premises 24/7 and they're considering moving. They could leave CA and with just the tax savings alone buy a mansion in TX or FL and not have to deal with the nonsense. If they need to go to LA for something, just hop in your jet, do your business, and get out. CA has to be careful not to lose their best and brightest (or rich people). It used to be the land of opportunity and everyone wanted to live there. Not so much anymore.

 

[tommyguns2]

Trump is and was a complete and total failure .. the Abraham Accords ? haaahahaah what trash Trumps help destroying Israel and Gaza ,, were so proud.

There was never peace in the middle east since the antisemite nations created Israel after WW2 because none of the allied nations wanted the jews ,, my family escaped the Nazis. Only reason I exist is my great grandmother escaped the Krakow ghettos and hid under a train. Not many folks realize this but Poland was the home of the jews for hundreds of years , not palestine.

All trump did was fuck up the middle east.

Look at the crime statistics for each city. its easy to google.

"The Major Cities Police Association's Violent Crime Survey found double-digit declines in homicide across nearly 70 of America's largest cities in 2023 compared 2022 - "

China was always going to go after Taiwan , and it will no matter who is in office when its ready ,, China has been around 3000 years ,, no one is going to stop it.

Iran has pulled shit since Trump attacked and assasinated a general of theirs .. thats what started it all .. and dont get me started on his botched fucked up withdrawal of Iraq he blames on Biden. Or this money that trump is screaming Biden gave Iran , it was Irans money , they met all the requirements made by international law and it was released but never delivered .. thats right , they still havent gotten the 8 billion that Trump screams they have .... again another of his deluded lies for attention.

Trump is a complete retard and its a shame so many people fall for his bullshit.

I'm going to have to politely disagree. Trump has been painted as Hitler, yet except for mean tweets, the world was a heck of a lot more normal when he was President that during Biden's term. That's just the facts.

 

[beefnewton]

He was riding on Obama's successes, Tommy. Don't you understand?

I'll just leave this here:

Pollak: The Complete, Definitive List of Kamala Harris's Accomplishments

Here is the complete list of Kamala Harris's accomplishments as a prosecutor, U.S. Senator, and Vice President -- aside from being elected.

www.breitbart.com