Gh dosage and Slin pre or post ? Dosage?

[onedieselboy]

I would agree with mike on the dosage. I recently figured out myself that 5-6 iu's a day in one shot is the way to go. I also have been running my shot at night before bed and I have never experienced GH like I have running it this way. 75mcg t4 in the mornings and I will increase to 150mcg next week.

mands

I too shoot my Hgh before bed...how is the T4 helping you?

 

[tommyguns2]

Can you guys provide some explanation regarding GH administration before bed? I've been running mine (about 3IUs/day) first thing in the morning. I've purposefully avoided night time administration because I thought out body's natural GH release with within about an hour of falling asleep, so I figured whatever natural GH production I've got, I'm already getting that at nighttime. Any explanation would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Eup]

Many protocols call for pre workout probably in conjunction with slin I assume the theory behind that is that the slin engorges the cell and the gh actually divides the cell not sure if this is bro science but what I have read so far. Most also do it post workout for recovery. I've tried both before working out my pumps were insane. Also many believe GH is just a phenomenal fat cutter so with that said if it's just cutting fat any time would be a good time to take it granted your diet is pretty good then you would reap the benefits of the normal mans amount which is 5-10iu not the pros dosages that are anywhere from 10-30iu daily which I've done 20 and I retained so much freaking water I looked like a swollen sausage so that's when the diet has to be on point after 20iu you feel everything even a tablespoon of salt will swell you up. So I thought maybe night time would make recovery would be better including fat burning. Also the older you are the less gh you produce mostnof your gh is produced in your teen years or we would all be monsters if we kept producing it, so night time Gh after a certain age would be so nominal to non existent I don't think the Gh would suppress anything just supplement at that point.

 

[onedieselboy]

Can you guys provide some explanation regarding GH administration before bed? I've been running mine (about 3IUs/day) first thing in the morning. I've purposefully avoided night time administration because I thought out body's natural GH release with within about an hour of falling asleep, so I figured whatever natural GH production I've got, I'm already getting that at nighttime. Any explanation would be greatly appreciated.

I can't provide any scientific explanation. I just know by real life usage. I ran pharm grade gh exclusively, and at bed between 4-6 IUs has been given me best results....I did pre, post, pre/post, multiple times a day-- you name it I tried it...side note though the mornings I do AM cardio I also shoot couple iu...hope this helps bro.

 

[mands]

Can you guys provide some explanation regarding GH administration before bed? I've been running mine (about 3IUs/day) first thing in the morning. I've purposefully avoided night time administration because I thought out body's natural GH release with within about an hour of falling asleep, so I figured whatever natural GH production I've got, I'm already getting that at nighttime. Any explanation would be greatly appreciated.

Here is a good study tommyg!!!

Abstract

In a double blind, cross-over placebo-controlled trial, we studied the effects of 26 weeks of replacement therapy with recombinant human GH on body composition, metabolic parameters, and well-being in 10 patients with adult-onset GH deficiency (GHD). All patients received appropriate thyroid, adrenal, and gonadal replacement therapy. The dose of recombinant human GH was 0.25-0.5 U/kg.week (0.013-0.026 mg/kg.day) and was administered sc daily at bedtime. One patient was withdrawn from the study because of edema and atrial fibrillation. Body composition was estimated with three independent methods: computed tomography, bioelectric impedance, and total body potassium combined with total body water assessments. The Comprehensive Psychological Rating Scale and the Symptom Check List-90 were used to assess any change in psychopathology. After 26 weeks of treatment, adipose tissue (AT) mass decreased 4.7 kg (P < 0.001). Subcutaneous AT decreased by an average of 13%, whereas visceral AT was reduced by 30%. Muscle volume increased by 2.5 kg (5%; P < 0.05). According to the four-compartment model derived from assessments of total body potassium and total body water, body cell mass and extracellular fluid volume increased significantly by 1.6 and 3.0 kg, whereas body fat decreased by 6.1 kg. Results obtained by the bioelectric impedance technique were similar. The mean (+/- SD) concentrations of insulin-like growth factor-I increased from 0.26 (0.06) at baseline to 2.56 (1.55) and 2.09 (1.03) kU/L after 6 and 26 weeks of treatment. Calcium and serum phosphate, osteocalcin, and procollagen-III concentrations were significantly higher, and intact PTH concentrations were reduced after 6 and 26 weeks of treatment, respectively. Total and free T3 concentrations were significantly increased after 6 and 26 weeks of treatment, whereas free T4 concentrations were reduced at 6 weeks, but after 26 weeks, free T4 concentrations had returned to pretreatment values. Finally, after 26 weeks of treatment, there was a decrease in the Comprehensive Psychological Rating Scale score (P < 0.05). The results show that GH replacement in GHD adults results in marked alterations in body composition, fat distribution, and bone and mineral metabolism and reduces psychiatric symptoms. Finally, we conclude that the observed beneficial effects of replacement therapy with GH are of sufficient magnitude to consider treatment of GHD adults.


http://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/10.1210/jcem.76.2.8432773

Would like to add most all gh deficient children that are administered exogenous gh do so at night and in one big dose. Same with AIDS patients.

mands

 

[mands]

Ok mands so I've been doing your overnight protocol and my sleep is crazy I'm literally having some freaking nightmares holy, crap I can't sleep good. I'm dreaming crazy stuff bugs are eating me, I'm shooting people freaking insane geez not sure I can keep it up any other suggestions ? A different time for gh administration.

You need to think happy thoughts and look at porn before bedtime

I too shoot my Hgh before bed...how is the T4 helping you?

No lethargy at all during the day.

mands

 

[saffire]

mand i was doing 1 shot 3iu morning /1 shot 3iu pre bed , so basicly should i switch 6iu before bed right? thank you

 

[Mrhat]

What would be the largest dose a person should take at one bedtime dose?

 

[mands]

mand i was doing 1 shot 3iu morning /1 shot 3iu pre bed , so basicly should i switch 6iu before bed right? thank you

Yes!

mands

 

[saffire]

Yes!

mands

thank you bro! keep it up , love your knowlege!


Someone who doing 10 IUS of growth or more do you think its still will be best idea? or after that dose would be better to split it to AM/PM?

 

[Bighawk1]

Take it all before bed. The script for AIDS patients using Serostim states to shoot 1 vial(18iu) before bed every night. Do the GH before bed, keep it away from carbs. Take your slin pre workout, you'll be amazed at the results. Also as Mands said, keep your carbs high with GH. If I don't, then I start to flatten out.