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First Cycle - All You Need to Know

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#38
Love this thread!
Extremely informative and thorough.

Any suggestions for on-cycle supplements?

Staples that should be run during your cycle that support good cholesterol, blood pressure, prostate/liver health or more...?
(Things along the lines of Liv.52 and Saw Palmetto)

I think this would be a great addition to the sticky for those that are readying themselves for their first cycle.

Looking forward to responses.
 
PillarofBalance

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#39
Love this thread!
Extremely informative and thorough.

Any suggestions for on-cycle supplements?

Staples that should be run during your cycle that support good cholesterol, blood pressure, prostate/liver health or more...?
(Things along the lines of Liv.52 and Saw Palmetto)

I think this would be a great addition to the sticky for those that are readying themselves for their first cycle.

Looking forward to responses.
Fish oil and a clean diet are usually all you need. A low dose of dbol doesn't beat up the liver bad. I think so called "liver protection" supplements are junk. For blood pressure, controlling estrogen bloating will usually help, unless you already have high blood pressure. I've seen some guys run 10mg cialis daily to keep blood pressure down.
 
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#40
I did the same and started at 25. moved up to 50 about two wks later and loved it. I had no blood pressure or lab work problems. ran it for 6wk only.
 
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#41
i know you can't talk source here. but in order to cultivate one is it more likely that i will find one that is an actual person or a site. thanks for the info.
 
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i know you can't talk source here. but in order to cultivate one is it more likely that i will find one that is an actual person or a site. thanks for the info.
If you put the time and research in, you will find a good source. Keep an open mind and don't believe every thing you read.
 
gunrunner

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I would use only Test for the first cycle. No D-bol.

During hCG I would an AI or at least a little Nola to keep the E2 down.

The rest looks very good. I like the break in between the cycle and the PCT with 3 weeks of hCG. So many bros just go straight to PCT with nothing in between or use hCG as part of the PCT. Good work.
 
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#44
Great help, really gave me a good direction to go with my first cycle.
 
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#45
After all this time, the only thing I would change is the arimidex... I now prefer aromasin/exemestane because it's much more stable in my system. Arimidex is still a good choice for a first cycle to see how you react to it. Some guys I know swear by arimidex and love it, others have moved on to aromasin.

I can't stress enough how important the hcg protocol is... I've done it both with and without and the difference was STAGGERING!! I would say I saved 2+months of recovery time by utilizing hcg, not a bad deal for spending less than $100 extra.

And as some have said, start with 25mg ED dbol if you go that route, not 50. 50 can give bad back and calf pumps if you aren't used to it!
 
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#46
This post was very informational, thanks for posting!
I'm planning on running my first cycle in a month or so, so would anyone insterested mind evaluating it?
 
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MuscleHead
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#47
This post was very informational, thanks for posting!
I'm planning on running my first cycle in a month or so, so would anyone insterested mind evaluating it?
Post up your plan in a separate thread and then be ready for a critique and some advice. Be sure to include as much info as possible, including a time frame and dosages for everything
 
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#48
This is an excellent write up! The only thing that I might add in the injection info is to heat the solution up in the pin with hot water for a couple minutes to thin out the viscosity of the oil. Viscosity is basically how think or thin the fluid is with water having a very low viscosity and molasses having a high viscosity and it is directly related to the temperature of the fluid so heating it up with thin it out and make it much easier to inject.
 
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