Failed Assassination attempt on Trump

[SAD]

Something I’ve not seen / heard anything (any actual consideration) about, was Trump’s reaction in the heat of the moment.
Unlike some of you, I don’t have military combat / war experience. However, born and raised in Los Angeles, I have had real life and death conflict experiences.
Here’s a reality you can’t do anything about until you experience it — if you know, you know: Unless you’re a hardened military combatant, an experienced, numb, hardened gangbanger; you DO NOT react to being shot at the way Trump (a non hardened 78yr old senior citizen) reacted.
Thats 100% fact, there’s NOTHING you can do about your reaction having never experienced that level of imminent, violent life and death encounter.
I have witnessed first hand, shootings, stabbings, persons run over by vehicle and beatings far more brutal violent than gun shot and stabbings. Having that exposure did nothing to prepare what I felt and how I reacted in 2 incidents I was shot at.
First encounter: I was stuck in the open crossfire of rival gang members. Embarrassingly, I literally pissed myself a bit in an absolute panic frenzy to awkwardly duck and try to find cover.
2nd incident, I was attacked by
2 mexi gangmembers, both armed that tried to carjack me. One was in front of my car pointing a gun toward my windshield, the other with a gun extended was coming to my driver side door. Without really any rational thinking and in a total nervous system panic reaction I floored it and partially hit the dude in front of my car. Both of them opened fire. I was in a hyperventilating emotional and physical reaction overwhelm for at least a solid 10-15min shaking and unable to breathe normal enough to function and talk.
I was NOT a pussy. I had a lot of fights, a lot of close calls with violent encounters, a lot of observed violence exposure. My system had advanced first hand exposure to the shock of violence, random high emotion crisis occurrences. Trump on the other hand, no such thing. Yet psychologically coherent, unpanicked and peacocking to the crowd was his nervous system’s response. 100%, the body / mind does NOT react that way. It simply doesn’t.
Believe what you will, he knew what was about to happen and what he was told to do.
Psyop theater.

“Says he has no idea what he’s speaking on from personal experience.

Speaks on that subject.

Everyone else is wrong, 100%.”

Lmao. This is the intersection of ignorance and comedy.

 

[Glycomann]

Well here is something that all the theorists should contemplate. Trump Media stock was shorted hours before the shooting. They bet the price would tank to the order of about 8 million dollars. somebody or somebodies thought he would be dead on Monday morning.

 

[testboner]

“Says he has no idea what he’s speaking on from personal experience.

Speaks on that subject.

Everyone else is wrong, 100%.”

Lmao. This is the intersection of ignorance and comedy.

I know you’re not an idiot, SAD. But your interpretation of what you’re citing is idiotic. You can reread of my personal experience again. I stated I don’t have military combat experience, but I do have personal life and death critical incident experience.
Your comment doesn’t make sense.

 

[Massive G]

9/11 was at a peak of Islamophobia / Middle East boogeyman fear porn.
The towers op served a multitude of agendas: Kickoff for mass surveillance on steroids (warrantless and otherwise); Formation of TSA; formation of DHS; the Patriot Act (indefinite detainment without charges etc…); MASSIVE boost / profits off the MIC; toppling of a multitude of uncooperative sovereign nation leadership; Bush family (and others) got back all of their invested monies in Iraqi oil, and then some! Halliburton was given the contract for rebuilding. All that just scratches the surface — this is what empires do.

It's hard to envision that the government would do something like this but history points to the results of the terror attack. I still can see it clearly in my mind the videos of those planes hitting those towers back when nobody had cell phones but there are clear videos from below of the planes hitting the tower especially the second one. The way the towers collapsed looking like a controlled demolition.
There's video of what looks like a missile hitting the pentagon building where there were records of about a trillion dollars worth that went missing from the first Iraq War. The way Bush 2 lied and bullied the world about weapons of mass destruction that led to another trillion dollars spent and invested in rebuilding Iraq after the military industrial complex laundered even more money. Ukraine just changed it's policy about foreign investment so the US can launder even more money in the country. Could be the greatest false flag ever or just a lot of things aligning up at the same time. I doubt Trump was involved directly the team he has around him is incredibly incompetent but there are many on both sides that want him gone at any cost.

 

[Massive G]

Well here is something that all the theorists should contemplate. Trump Media stock was shorted hours before the shooting. They bet the price would tank to the order of about 8 million dollars. somebody or somebodies thought he would be dead on Monday morning.

I wish we normals could have gotten in on it.

 

[beefnewton]

We all choose what to spend our time and energy on. I’ve got real world issues that directly affect my life, so I choose not to spend a bunch of time on conspiracy theories and conjecture on past events. I suppose if you have the free time to waste, have at it. To each his own. Ego isn’t even remotely involved.
It’s just a time and peace and energy thing.

The implication that I spend inordinate amounts of time on these topics is wrong. I have a shallow interest in things I cannot change or control. However, in the specific example I referenced, I hope it is all complete bullshit. Must have hit a nerve.

 

[Bigtex]

1. No, "many" Trump supporter do not follow QAnon or Alex Jones. That's no more accurate a statement than saying "many" Dems follow Antifa.

2. Trump's conspiracies of the Deep State?
a. 51 former intelligence agents signed a letter saying the Hunter Biden laptop smelled like a Russian disinformation operation. Not a single one of them had analyzed the laptop, the lead guy drafted and circulated the letter at the request of Blinken (Biden campaign guy, now Secretary of State) for the express purpose of influencing the election. That IS the definition of Deep State interference. Every one of those people should have their security clearances revoked.
b. The same Hunter Biden laptop was in the possession of the FBI for almost a year prior and had been authenticated. The FBI did NOT correct the intelligence community lie. By refusing to dispel the lie they knew was incorrect, it influenced the election. That IS election interference.
c. The Russia hoax. The Steele dossier was a fraud, and the FBI knew it wasn't corroborated, yet met with Trump to discuss it (knowing it wasn't corroborated), then leaked that meeting to the press which reported on the briefing in order to give the dossier street cred. That was done specifically to undermine the sitting President. That IS Deep State interference.
d. The investigators of Mueller's Russia investigation all wiped their phones clean after they were subpoenaed, despite the fact they knew these were gov't issued phones and the information belonged to the investigating committee. They knew it was wrong to do, and they (experienced Federal prosecutors) just gave everyone the middle finger. Those investigators continuously leaked false or partial information that misled the public on the course of the investigation. That was proven true when the Mueller report came out and said that they found nothing.
e. The NSA system (702 queries) were accessed by FBI "contractors" in violation of FISA protocols tens of thousands of times. These "contractors" were spying on Americans, particularly Trump and other political opponents of the Obama administration.

The list could go on and on. Those are not conspiracies. The Deep State (or whatever you want to call it) is real, and they are not excited about Trump getting elected because there is a lot of money to be made with the status quo.

If I were Trump and I won the election, one of the first things I would do is ask for the resignation of every political appointee at the NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS. For every political appointee that was given a "regular" non-appointee job at these agencies in the past two years, along with the top 3 levels of career workers there, I'd "promote" all of them to a massive airplane hanger north of the arctic circle in Alaska, giving them "filing jobs" manually filing papers in cabinets that extend as far as the warehouse in the movie "Raiders of the Lost Ark." Anybody who doesn't want to take the promotion can retire. Then, I'd sign an executive order that orders the preservation of all paper and electronic documents, and anyone destroying anything would be subject to criminal prosecution. And then audits would begin, and the whistleblowers would come out of the woodwork.

JFK also warned us of a secret society that runs America behind the scenes. So, it seems that this idea of a deep state is no so far removed. As far as QAnon, I watched this silliness for a month or two and quickly saw it was most likely a kid playing games. Alex jones has always been a fringe NUT to me. I agree we have some fringe nuts on our side but for the most part the people on the right have not been violent to the point of rioting, burning down communities and disrupting colleges campuses. All the things you pointed out are right on the money. The radical left is being led by idiots like Bill Ayers who was a60's radical hippy and the co-founder of the far-left militant group the Weather Underground. One of Obama's mentors. It was Ayers who influence Common Core using his friend Arne Duncan (Dept of Educ) which the far left has tried to sneak into public education. Ayers was very close to communist dictators like Hugo Chavez.

Another hero of the far left - Saul Alinsky author of Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky, imparted a key piece of advice to those who want to disrupt or even destroy a society, or a country. Alinsky said, “accuse the other side of that which you are guilty”. Karl Marx put it this way, “accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it to create confusion” Look over this list and tell me how much of it you are suing happen.

We had better wake up n America or we are going to lose everything we have to a small group of people who want to take everything.

 

[Glycomann]

I wish we normals could have gotten in on it.

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With my luck, if I had stock in Trump Media he would have been assassinated and it would have went to 3 cents Monday.

 

[MR. BMJ]

I need to catch up on the last 5+ pages, lol.

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[Yano]

Seeing articles like this piss me off ,,, An attempt to vilify the hunting and woodsman culture and those that enjoy shooting.

Its all their fault , if little douche bag wasnt in a community that enjoyed hunting and shooting he wouldnt of been a psycho .... bullshit !!

Guns Are Woven Into the Life of Shooter’s Hometown

Thomas Crooks did not have to look far beyond his hometown in western Pennsylvania to find opportunities to arm himself, buy ammunition and practice shooting before he headed to a political rally last weekend and tried to assassinate former President Donald Trump. Guns and hunting are deeply...

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[SAD]

I know you’re not an idiot, SAD. But your interpretation of what you’re citing is idiotic. You can reread of my personal experience again. I stated I don’t have military combat experience, but I do have personal life and death critical incident experience.
Your comment doesn’t make sense.

First of all, let me apologize for coming off like a prick. That was wrong. No excuse.

Let me better articulate my thoughts. Trump is way too cocky to react the way most people would, and the threat wasn't right in his face like a mugger or assailant would be.

Trumps cockiness makes him think that there’s no way someone’s going to fuck with him. “No way can an assassin get to me, secret service says we’re way too good, way too good. Many have tried. Still here. [shrugs shoulders and purses lips with eyes closed]” So when he heard the pop and felt that pinch on his ear, his initial reaction was straight up bewilderment, like the bully getting slapped for the first time ever. His first thought wasn’t “I’m in a firefight and need to get down, I’ve just been shot”, like someone in an obvious firefight would do. His response during and after, fall in line with the way people react when they have no reason to be threatened and can’t see the threat and suddenly feel a lot of pressure or a sharp pinch.

Your real life experiences, which were legit and clearly impactful, were very different because your threat was right in front of you and you WERE the line of defense. You’d have seen a very different Trump if the guy was on stage with a knife. But he’s got a bit of a God complex and since he had all his boys and girls holding him back (hold me back, hold me back) he put on a show as if there was no continued threat. Thats just a civilian with a huge ego, not a guy who knew more than us about what had just happened.


I’m down for some connected dots that lead to an actual conclusion. I’m not saying that I’m not reading and entertaining the ideas presented. I’ve read every post in hopes of seeing the most likely scenario, clearly, and since there isn’t one string that connects well from one end to the other, the most likely conclusion is that it was laziness, incompetence, and a stupid 20yr kid with mental problems, which there are millions of right now.

My .02 with respect this time. Apologies again.

 

[SAD]

The implication that I spend inordinate amounts of time on these topics is wrong. I have a shallow interest in things I cannot change or control. However, in the specific example I referenced, I hope it is all complete bullshit. Must have hit a nerve.

I’ll start with an apology to you too, if I offended you.

I’ll end by saying that I don’t even know what pizza gate is and that totally highlights the whole point of my first response to you, and that is that I don’t have time for most things that don’t directly involve me and my family and my smallish world.

No nerves hit. Just disagree. All good.