Deca "D" sides

[jixer08]

I cant remember my dosage of deca but this was also like 12 years ago. I ran test, deca, and dbol. I'm pretty sure the test was ran at 750mg of sus and dbol was probably 30mg. Not sure of deca dose but never ran it again because of decadick side effects. I thought about trying it again but not sure of how to keep the ed issues. Anyone ever had that problem and was able to fix it? I'm wondering now if my test was too high. I just got off a cycle where I started at 750 of test but started having some issues and lowered it to just 350mg of test and everything was great. This past cycle started at 750 test wk, 100mg trenA eod, and 100mg Mast eod. 6 weeks into cycle I changed it to 350mg test wk, 150mg trenA eod, 150 Mast eod and the cycle was extremely good.

After I ran deca years ago and had problems, I ran another cycle of sust 750mg wk, 750mg bold wk, and 30mg dbol. I like that cycle and had no problems

Just was wanting to see if anyone has had those issues and was able to fix it.

 

[FTF]

Everyone responds so differently to these things that there's no way of saying what works for me will work for you. I run mast with test and deca and have no issues.

 

[sityslicker1]

Have you considered trying npp as an alternative? It just as good muscle builder without the libido and water retention issues.

 

[Wallyd]

Have you considered trying npp as an alternative? It just as good muscle builder without the libido and water retention issues.

I totally agree with this. I won’t use deca but NPP is a favorite & a staple for me.

 

[Warhead14]

The first steroid I ever used was Deca. Got it in TJ in 1990, did 1ml shot and a week late my dick was as hard as cotton. I freaked out, ran back to TJ, got some Primoteston Depo and was 100% within 2 weeks. Have not touched it since...

 

[MR. BMJ]

Yea, you're not gonna know how it treats you until you actually try it again. I agree with the others, I like NPP (nandrolone phenylpropionate) MUCH more. It will not linger in the system as long as nandrolone decanoate. Keep the dosage small, and limit it to 6-8 weeks. If you start having issue prior to reaching that period, just stop it and things 'should' clear up much sooner than if you were on Decanoate.

I like NPP dosed at 100mg EOD or M/W/F....keeping it simple. You could probably get away with 100mg 2x/week, or 50mg EOD or m/w/f....depending on how advanced you are and if you were taking low doses going into it (ie trt test doses).

 

[BackAtIt]

Thought I would drop this in:

Nandrolone and stanozolol upregulate aromatase expression and further increase IGF-I-dependent effects on MCF-7 breast cancer cell proliferation - PubMed

Several doping agents, such as anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) and peptide hormones like insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I), are employed without considering the potential deleterious effects that they can cause. In addition, androgens are used in postmenopausal women as replacement...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It is an article (paper) on nandrolone/stanozolol and basically focuses on breast cancer....However, noteworthy, the article shows that deca increases the uptake of "a dose-dependent induction of aromatase expression and, consequently, estradiol production".

U were taking 750mg's per week of test as well as the deca....So, it would stand to reason that with test also notorious for aromatizing into e, plus, u taking deca which supposedly also increases e production, u could very well of had an "e" problem....Just a thought!...


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[jixer08]

Everyone responds so differently to these things that there's no way of saying what works for me will work for you. I run mast with test and deca and have no issues.

I was thinking that if I did run deca again that I would probably add Mast to it.

 

[jixer08]

I havent ran NPP before. I will definitely look into it. Thanks everyone for your feedback

 

[rAJJIN]

Deca is one of my favorites.
I’d rather have tren but as I get to be an old man tren side effects have me cautious of it.

For dick medicine I always have cialis and use it on the day of the performance. Even if that means daily or eod. Normally one 20mg tab and I have no worries of getting hard.
For the unbendable iron rod I add 50-100 mg viagra with it.

I remember years ago when I was helping
A few top level guys with supplements this one in particular always went with test and deca. Equal amount of each.

 

[Littleguy]

I ran deca for years and was always very happy woth the results and never had any issues from it, I never ran more than 300 mg per week though.
In the 80's and 90's deca was one of the all time Faves of most BB'ers that I ran across, NPP when available was called Durabolin and was used with injections of 2x per week and it was a desireable compound to use., we did not have all of the access to compounds or information like today so we ran what was available.
Both are EXCELLENT muscle builders with low sides whe used responsibly IMO.
Cheers.

 

[Warhead14]

Oh it was the base cycle back in the day, Deca, Test and go. It just wrecked and like you guys said, many if not most were able to manage the sides. It definitely is a strong and valuable bulker!