Nov 19, 2012 First off, I wanted to thank SHINE for an article he posted on EC "Y". It inspired me to try it on my next cut. That started 5 weeks ago. Now I have had a ton of experience cutting on EC. In fact I have probably spent over a year of my life on it (combining all the times I have taken it). I also want to give the background that I am very dialed in at tracking and planning cals etc. I do NOT use a shot gun approach and EVERYTHING is weighed and portioned, so I know my intake is accurate. (have spent over two years planning and tracking 100% of my intake...so I am familiar with how to do it right). OK...now that that is out of the way.....here is my experience. 5 weeks ago 209 Today 189. What...20lbs in 5 weeks....no way. Well you are right. Yea.....4# a week sounds excessive....but it is not reflective of the true fat loss. Coming off the surplus I had been on there was a 10lb loss in the first week. This is mostly water retention from eating 500g of carbs (on my high carb days) and 300+ as my "low" days. Heck, cutting now, I dont even hit 300g on my "high" days and my "low" is only 180. I have figured the fat loss is at 2lbs a week. That is right at the border of coming off too fast. I really only wanted 1.5lb/week, which I have always cut at successfully. This got me thinking why am I losing so fast?. I am at 2400 cal. So even if I raised up to 2700-2800 (my maint) that still is only .75lbs per week less loss. To lose 2 lbs a week, I would have to calculate out that my maint is 3400cal. 2lbs fat loss per week = 7000 cal / 7 days in a week = 1000 cal a day deficit. Add this to my current intake 2400 cal and you get 3400 for maint. Now get this.....THERE IS NO WAY 3400 cal is my maint. Hell I just got off bulking at 3300 cal. So what is up?..... Only two things are different: I am doing 2- 20min HITT rowing sessions per week. (guessing they are 250-300 cal per session MAX) That only makes up 500-600 cal/ week. 1/7 of a lb The other is EC Y (the "Y" being new to the party) Note: AGAIN I am not suggesting anyone do this. There are warnings all over the internet NOT to combine Yohimine HCL and Ephedrine. It can be EXTREMELY dangerous.....excessive heart rate and blood pressure..etc. With that said, I have a ton of familiarity with EC. With that experience I introduced Yohimbine HCL VERY slowly and monitored heart rate and BP. AGAIN...be careful. The dose of Yohimbine is VERY SMALL....and NOT the typical dose you would take when taking it solo. (started at 5mg/ day split in two and have worked up to 7.5mg total. My advice....DONT mess with this unless you have a lot of experience and a good home BP monitoring machine. The ECY can be the only explanation for the rapid fat loss. It should be obvious to anyone with any experience that I should not be dropping 2lbs a week at 2400 cal. And I think most would easily see my maint can NOT be anywhere near 3400 cal. (working out only 3 hours a week and 40 min total cardio) So moderate activity level. It really is crazy..... Dont know what to think.... As for strength, it has tanked as usual. Lost about 50lbs on my bench. (Down to repping 315x6 instead of 315x10 at the peak of my bulk) But from experience that is normal. Last time I cut I had the same strength loss. Good news, is in only one week of carbing back up, I got all my strength back. Sh!t it will be neat as hell at the end of this cut as I now should have no problem with a 2xBW bench and 3x bw dead. That will be cool as hell Anyway....just wanted to share my experience on ECY. Hard to come up with any other explanation for the rapid fat loss I am experiencing.