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Can i eat anything on lean bulk?

rAJJIN

rAJJIN

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In all the guys I have listen to over the years
Most all of them (except mentzer)will tell
You keep the protein high.
When you say 25% protein, how
Many grams is that?
A lot of things we would need to know to be much help.
 
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Mumlaa

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In all the guys I have listen to over the years
Most all of them (except mentzer)will tell
You keep the protein high.
When you say 25% protein, how
Many grams is that?
A lot of things we would need to know to be much help.
i am eating around 160g of protein
 
genetic freak

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I think the point he's making is that he doesn't think his macros matter too much, as long as he's only in a mild caloric surplus. I think in general, he's correct. But you'll make the "best" progress on your lean bulk by keeping the calories cleaner and staying within the target caloric surplus.

Remember, it's a marathon and not a sprint. So any one day is fine to have yourself a treat. But if you're eating ice cream every day (just an exaggerated example), your progress will not be quite as good as when ice cream stays a periodic treat (e.g., once a week). But it's up to you. You get all the benefit and pay the full price for your decisions. It's up to you. I think giving yourself a periodic treat can be a good thing as a reward for your dedicated hard work. But "periodic" should not be "all the time." LOL
There is a lot to be said about that Tommy. We can definitely see it when guys try and prep for a show just fitting the macros and not eating a bodybuilder's diet. They look like shit compared to everyone else, if they even make it to the stage. One of the top influencers just learn that the hard way at Universe this year after talking a lot of shit. He did so poorly, he skipped Masters Nationals.
 
rAJJIN

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i am eating around 160g of protein
At what body weight?
Seems low but again I’m not sure where you are at…..
What the main goal is.
Are you beginner or advanced?
Are you following anything other then some
mentzer theories?
 
rAJJIN

rAJJIN

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Ok I ran a search on your posts and found you. Young guy, 16 just getting going.

my best advice I could give is forget the mentzer method. He was a little crazy and that stuff is pretty out of date.
Look for some stuff from John Meadows or Justin Harris and think you will be better off.

again there are plenty of guys here that
Can help you out of if you will let them.
 
Yano

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What you eat greatly depends on your genetics. I am around 10% BF and eat ice cream every night. I also eat plenty of carbs. It is not only hard for me to gain weight but I don't store a lot of fat and never really have. I consume 5000cal/d on the week days and 2600cal on the weekend. I am just hoping to maintain. My wife is a former IFBB pro and she eats a fraction of what I eat and gets fat. She can't eat carbs at all because they quickly store as fat. She has no idea what ice cream taste like. In general the higher the glycemic index of the carb the greater the propensity for it to store as fat once your body glycogen stores have been filled. Again, what you honestly need to do is learn how to eat. You are 16 years old and have a high metabolism. You need all the macros you can eat to gain. Get a good solid muscular physique and then start worrying about macros, micros and getting that six pac. You don't need to worry about a lean bulk, you need to be concerned with learning to eat enough to support muscle growth. You are thinking way to far ahead for only being 16.
You sound like my older brother , Rand is still the same size we were in school. He's a chef ,, doesn't lift , never has , he just does not store body fat. Eats like a horse too since we were kids but he takes his shirt off and hes skinny jacked like fucking Bruce Lee , even at 62 .. its disgusting LOL
 
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Ok I ran a search on your posts and found you. Young guy, 16 just getting going.

my best advice I could give is forget the mentzer method. He was a little crazy and that stuff is pretty out of date.
Look for some stuff from John Meadows or Justin Harris and think you will be better off.

again there are plenty of guys here that
Can help you out of if you will let them.
i started mentzer method and i have progress in increasing weights, when i cannot on volume training... i think human physiology is not changed and is not different so this method is not outdated if it worked back then it will work now too!
 
rAJJIN

rAJJIN

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Gotcha. Come back in a few years
And maybe you can show me what’s up.
For now my opinion is your not really old enough to even be here and your not smart enough to listen. I was young and hard headed before as well though. Good luck on your journey
 
tommyguns2

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What rAJJIN is saying is correct. Mentzer had an amazing physique, but he was also known to have some crazy, unorthodox training methods that are widely ridiculed today. If you train 6 hours a day, and drink gallons of milk and eat entire pizzas, you'll get bigger. And if you have freaky genes like Mentzer, you'll get quite big. But what will happen to YOU, a 16 year old kid that's just starting out?

You indicated you wanted to grow, but hold onto the leanness that you worked hard to develop recently. To do that requires more attention to diet than normal. If you simply want to bulk, go for it. You'll gain 25 pounds, and 10 of it will be muscle that you'll have to diet down to shed, and you'll hopefully keep 7-8 pounds of that. People do this all the time. It's just not what many would call a lean bulk.
 
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Gotcha. Come back in a few years
And maybe you can show me what’s up.
For now my opinion is your not really old enough to even be here and your not smart enough to listen. I was young and hard headed before as well though. Good luck on your journey
thanks man i will post updates in 3 months i think let see if i get progress with mentzer routine, i have many years i will see what program give me best progress, i was doing arnold split then high volume split nothing worked, lets see if hit mentzer style will work thanks!
 
Glycomann

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IIFYM nearly always turns to horror show. Limited cheat meals are OK but I always did better eating mostly clean. Then again I put on 35 lbs in 8 weeks at one point eating Popeye's Chicken, protein shakes and the random dozen cookies. But that didn't last long and after repeating that protocol 2 more times I developed GERD.
 
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