Biden Administration

[testboner]

Not really stop acting like u know something we don’t know.. I get I like occult shit too but anyone can watch a YouTube video and think they are informed.. I’m not a Democrat or a republican either . What the hell do u support anyway besides hating everything ?

I would say FT is an advocate of actual freedom and liberty — not the great lie of what we continue to perpetuate with regard to what the ruling class construct / gov’t is — the illusion.

 

[midevil]

I guess we'll just disagree on this one. I can't imagine a scenario in which there was an orderly exit. Because I've never seen or heard of (I listen to a lot of history lectures while I work) an orderly exit.

We ripped the Band-Aid off. It's going to sting. But it's be done. And the pain and chaos of the exit might serve a greater good. It's yet another lesson for the American people. Maybe we'll learn this time. But I doubt it.

We pulled out of Iraq without chaos.

Pretty simple to evacuate the U.S. citizens and then lastly the military. Nothing crazy or complicated, logistically or otherwise.

Also, when Russia left Afghanistan the last man to leave was the commander of forces (the top general).

What is up with you and others putting the "complicated" spin on this mess?

 

[testboner]

Maybe it is. But I'm a fuckked up person now after watching war because a game to the American people and watching war because a money making enterprise to greedy blood thirsty military contractors who make their money on war. War is horrible. It should NOT be a fuckking cookie jar full of treats. An unlimited handout to corporations.

Nor of benefit to stock holders concerned only with more More MORE benefit $$$$

 

[midevil]

No. While Trump was the selected puppet in office, his employers (the true “ruling party”) promulgated a narrative they chose to promulgate for the time.
NOTHING administratively observant to us (the public) is what we’re indoctrinated / trained to believe it is.

It's imposibble to convince me Trumps end game in Afghanistan would be equivalent to this debacle.

If your mindset is that the government wanted this to happen I'd be more inclined to agree with you. but your opinion of Trump is what it is and I can respect that opinion. But I'll never agree he's as clueless as Biden lol.

Are all politicians liars and cheats? Yeah most are bro I agree.

Is our government a mess? Yeah

 

[DungeonDweller]

Apparently there was a plan to get American civilians and Afghani police (?) out that Biden's people scrapped.

Also leaking is the administrations current plan is to tell the sheep that this was inevitable and couldn't have happened in any other way.

Libs love their false dichotomies. They are trying to say either we stay there indefinitely or we get out and have this disaster, no other choices. Well, duh, there were lots of other options.

 

[fasttwitch]

Not really stop acting like u know something we don’t know.. I get I like occult shit too but anyone can watch a YouTube video and think they are informed.. I’m not a Democrat or a republican either . What the hell do u support anyway besides hating everything ?

I've never been so attached to a political leader that I fail to see their flaws as well as strengths. Trump supporters see absolutely nothing wrong with Trump. That's an almost religious worship, not rational analysis. Trump supporters, like Obama supporters, are more cult members than anything else.

Not sure how much I know in relation to you or others. I just come from a political family. A family full or Dems, Repubs, libertarian, a socialist, council people, state representatives, a federal judge, etc. So I've heard every perspective imaginable argued from every other perspective. And it's almost all BS. People trying to protect their tribe.

But in the case of Trump, perhaps he wouldn't be so hated if he wasn't telling 60% of Americans to go fuck themselves on a daily basis? But then again, he does it to fire up his base. His 40%. It's meat for his dogs. Own the libs. A whole presidency based on the idea of antagonizing the other side. And then his supporters are shocked to find out that most Americans hate him. Big mystery there. Hahaha.. Trump goes around belittling people and insulting people and then they hate him? What what??

 

[fasttwitch]

We pulled out of Iraq without chaos.

Pretty simple to evacuate the U.S. citizens and then lastly the military. Nothing crazy or complicated, logistically or otherwise.

Also, when Russia left Afghanistan the last man to leave was the commander of forces (the top general).

What is up with you and others putting the "complicated" spin on this mess?

Yep. That's what the media told us about Iraq. Sorry, but I don't trust the media.

But here's the thing. We could have stayed another month right? But then again at the end of that month we could have told that we need yet another month. And then another. And then another. Until it's out of the news cycle and we're there longer. Then in 2031 we have this same exact conversation. The generals have been telling presidents for decades we just need a little more time. It's always a little more time.

It will never end.

 

[midevil]

Yep. That's what the media told us about Iraq. Sorry, but I don't trust the media.

But here's the thing. We could have stayed another month right? But then again at the end of that month we could have told that we need yet another month. And then another. And then another. Until it's out of the news cycle and we're there longer. Then in 2031 we have this same exact conversation. The generals have been telling presidents for decades we just need a little more time. It's always a little more time.

It will never end.

I can dig it this is all frustrating. But leaving was and still is the right decision I think we agree on that part. But none the less if the intention is there it has to be done the right way and yet sometimes delays are necessary. That's where is issue and frustration is with everyone I've conversed with on the topic.

It's really hard to believe with ALL of the supposed high echelon turds involved in making this happen, that they got it so wrong.

Makes me think it was a smokescreen for something else that's coming.

I keep seeing video's on social media of massive amounts of military equipment on trains moving west.

Some are of the opinion it's a United Nations move next. On our home soil. Think about that one for a minute.

 

[Bro Bundy]

Nwo has us by the balls

 

[tommyguns2]

Nwo has us by the balls

Except that the Taliban just proved that determined people with AR-15s can outlast a superpower. It’ll never happen, especially with a bunch of baby blue helmet UN pussy soldiers

 

[BackAtIt]

Nwo has us by the balls

Got a question?...I keep hearing NWO's proponents, reset advocates, elite, 1%'ers, etc are the ones who are behind this takeover?....My question is this:

1.) Aren't the above-mentioned rich?...
2.) Don't "they" already have power?....
3.) Don't "they" already have control of markets, industry, etc?


In other words, aren't they ALREADY controlling the world/have all the money funneled into their own pockets, and have been for a long time?....What more can they gain by this supposed USURP of the "World" scene?....

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[Bro Bundy]

Got a question?...I keep hearing NWO's proponents, reset advocates, elite, 1%'ers, etc are the ones who are behind this takeover?....My question is this:

1.) Aren't the above-mentioned rich?...
2.) Don't "they" already have power?....
3.) Don't "they" already have control of markets, industry, etc?


In other words, aren't they ALREADY controlling the world/have all the money funneled into their own pockets, and have been for a long time?....What more can they gain by this supposed USURP of the "World" scene?....

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They get off on causing chaos and watching suffering