shortz
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Gotcha, thanks.
So, just wanted to share. I was at the Doc's on Wed and had a steroid shot in to my bicep and shoulder. I also started Mobic. My wife texted the doc to ask him about my hiccups, and he said he has actually heard of a few guys experiencing hiccups post injection, but he has no idea why.
dr jim
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ALL of the side effects you mentioned have been reported with Gaber use, although their frequency and severity are directly proportional to the dosage.
On average the most common side effects are
GI : including vomiting, constipation and abdominal cramps
Neuro; Headache is noted in as many as 30%, visual alterations and hiccups
CV: Dizziness, palpitations
Since there are few conditions such as Parkinson's, or Pituitary adenoma which warrants the use of dopamine agonists, I query WHY some BB choose to use a drug which alters CNS neurotransmission.
Oh yea I've heard how these DA's combat the altered libido from a variety of PEDs.
However the fact is ONLY ONE CLINICAL STUDY has been performed to date in humans. The study was poorly controlled and limited in size to warrant the conclusion as cited by the authors "Gaber is effective in patients with anorgasmioa"!
Unfortunately many "bro scientists" Parrot what they have heard or read elsewhere, often citing this very study to support their opinion and extrapolate further by lamenting Gaber is effective for "many forms of sexual dysfunction"
Another reason some BB have elected to use Gaber is to lower "an elevated Prolactin level because of progesterogenic AAS". The genesis of this nonsense is/was apparently derived by combining research from several studies on pregnant patients, whom develop elevated prolactin and progesterone as a means to an ends, lactation.
References have also included patients with Prolactinomas, believing the mechanism responsible was as simplistic as "enhanced Progesterone receptor" stimulation rather than a deranged CNS milieu.
Others vainly cling to the well established data, that because the MOA of 19nor AAS is mediated via the progesterone receptor, they MUST also raise serum Progesterone / Prolactin levels, NOT!
There simply is no data which supports this broism, in spite of data (what little there is) to the contrary, which suggests 19nor AAS are more likely to LOWER Progesterone levels!
The bottom line, there is no evidence which supports the "labeled" or "off labeled" use of dopamine agonists (Bromocryptine, Gabergoline) as PED's or as a means of combating the complications of PEDs.
Regs
jim
On average the most common side effects are
GI : including vomiting, constipation and abdominal cramps
Neuro; Headache is noted in as many as 30%, visual alterations and hiccups
CV: Dizziness, palpitations
Since there are few conditions such as Parkinson's, or Pituitary adenoma which warrants the use of dopamine agonists, I query WHY some BB choose to use a drug which alters CNS neurotransmission.
Oh yea I've heard how these DA's combat the altered libido from a variety of PEDs.
However the fact is ONLY ONE CLINICAL STUDY has been performed to date in humans. The study was poorly controlled and limited in size to warrant the conclusion as cited by the authors "Gaber is effective in patients with anorgasmioa"!
Unfortunately many "bro scientists" Parrot what they have heard or read elsewhere, often citing this very study to support their opinion and extrapolate further by lamenting Gaber is effective for "many forms of sexual dysfunction"
Another reason some BB have elected to use Gaber is to lower "an elevated Prolactin level because of progesterogenic AAS". The genesis of this nonsense is/was apparently derived by combining research from several studies on pregnant patients, whom develop elevated prolactin and progesterone as a means to an ends, lactation.
References have also included patients with Prolactinomas, believing the mechanism responsible was as simplistic as "enhanced Progesterone receptor" stimulation rather than a deranged CNS milieu.
Others vainly cling to the well established data, that because the MOA of 19nor AAS is mediated via the progesterone receptor, they MUST also raise serum Progesterone / Prolactin levels, NOT!
There simply is no data which supports this broism, in spite of data (what little there is) to the contrary, which suggests 19nor AAS are more likely to LOWER Progesterone levels!
The bottom line, there is no evidence which supports the "labeled" or "off labeled" use of dopamine agonists (Bromocryptine, Gabergoline) as PED's or as a means of combating the complications of PEDs.
Regs
jim
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harrybrah
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