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After some advice/opinions on first cycle.

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Bigred18

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hi all. So I’m keen to start my first cycle l I’m 26 now and have trained on and off since I was 18 but have trained and dieted consistently for the last 18 months. I have made some gains I’m 6 foot 5 and 107kg and I’m guessing between 15-20 percent bf. Just want to go to the next level put on some size I’ll add current physique pics and the cycle I’m looking at.
 

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hi all. So I’m keen to start my first cycle l I’m 26 now and have trained on and off since I was 18 but have trained and dieted consistently for the last 18 months. I have made some gains I’m 6 foot 5 and 107kg and I’m guessing between 15-20 percent bf. Just want to go to the next level put on some size I’ll add current physique pics and the cycle I’m looking at.
If you get a chance, stop by the intro section and give an intro.

The good news, test @ 500mg a week is a great first cycle. It shows you will have gyno protection and a PCT to get you started back up.

The bad news, that's less than $200 worth of stuff that says $600, save $100. I couldn't imagine the price with the dbol and HCG.

For the PCT, read up on sides. Many guys prefer Nolva over the Clomid, it seems to make some guys a little emotional but some guys are good. There are guys running a Nolva and Clomid combo as well.

I haven't been off for years so PCT isn't something I stay sharp on. I used to run Nolva by itself and do just fine.
 
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Bigred18

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If you get a chance, stop by the intro section and give an intro.

The good news, test @ 500mg a week is a great first cycle. It shows you will have gyno protection and a PCT to get you started back up.

The bad news, that's less than $200 worth of stuff that says $600, save $100. I couldn't imagine the price with the dbol and HCG.

For the PCT, read up on sides. Many guys prefer Nolva over the Clomid, it seems to make some guys a little emotional but some guys are good. There are guys running a Nolva and Clomid combo as well.

I haven't been off for years so PCT isn't something I stay sharp on. I used to run Nolva by itself and do just fine.
No worries I’ll add an intro thanks for the reply!
 
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Januza

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I highly recommend both clomid and nolva as PCT. works really well for me but that’s of course my personal preference.

On my first cycle I only did nolva as PCT just took longer to recover. With clomid it seems to really speed up my natural test production.
 
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BD Cool

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I wouldn't run the a-dex unless your nipples start to get itchy/tingling. 500 mgs of test isn't much... you should be able to control your bloat with your diet. A little water retention can be a good thing sometimes.
 
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I wouldn't run the a-dex unless your nipples start to get itchy/tingling. 500 mgs of test isn't much... you should be able to control your bloat with your diet. A little water retention can be a good thing sometimes.
ditto

since first cycle --will prob be ur best --i would hit it hard on weight ----let the test do its job ---have diet in check but eat like a mofo
 
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Im gona go agains the grain here. I would say wait to hit the test till your 30s. You really dont want to mess up your natural test production now...

Then if you like me you going to do it any ways. So this is how I started.
500 or 600 mg Test E or Cyp a week for 10 weeks
Dbol 50mg a day for the first 4 weeks

Wait 2 weeks after your last shot of Test and start your novadex for 2 weeks.

Time on = time off. so wait 10 weeks and start your next cycle. Next one you may say????? yep cause after your first cycle your gona want to do another. ... and another... and another... lol

Your a Big MF already son... One thing everyone forgets for their first cycle. EAT real food... 6 times a day... 600 to 700 Calories per meal, and double scoop protien powder before bed. The work and training is easy, it the food and mental stress to stay the course that hard part.
 
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gunslinger

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WTF did I just read? $600 for a 10 week test cycle? Dude someone is ripping you a new one. That's about $150-160 worth of gear and PCT goodies. So the first thing you need to do is find a new source for your gear. After that I'd recommend test E at 500mg per week for 12 weeks with a 4-5 week dbol kickstart at 25-30 mg per day. PCT two weeks after tha last shot of test I run Nolva/Clomid at 40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50 and shoot 5,000 IU of HCG in two shots about 10 days apart. If your diet is solid and your gear is real you could expect to gain maybe 15-20 pounds. About half of it water.
 
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