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3rd Cycle Log 750mgs Test E/50mgs Anadrol

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I wouldn't be surprised that NOW if all your mass is coming from the test and you just think it's coming from the orals. For me, orals become less and less effective at high doses after about week 4 or so. But long estered test I keep making gains right up until the end. Your liver will regenerate cells out of the damage you are causing now, but I really think it's of more benefit to you to just finish with a shorter acting compound and leave the orals out of it.
 
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Have you been on the orals for the entire cycle so far? If so, and you have not noticed decreased appetite or any yellowing of the whites in your eyes/skin, then I think this goes to show how overrated (but not to be ignored or disrespected) the toxicity of orals is.

Brother i haven't stopped taking Anadrol but for one week and my appetite is through the roof and there are absolutely no signs of liver toxicity except for some lighter colored stools (for the past couple days) which can actually be a whole lot of things. The best part is that i am getting bigger and bigger and it's definitely not water because i keep estrogen under control and my diet is very clean for the most part.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised that NOW if all your mass is coming from the test and you just think it's coming from the orals. For me, orals become less and less effective at high doses after about week 4 or so. But long estered test I keep making gains right up until the end. Your liver will regenerate cells out of the damage you are causing now, but I really think it's of more benefit to you to just finish with a shorter acting compound and leave the orals out of it.

The test doesn't give me mass but extreme strength which gets more extreme with A-bombs. I am going to finish with a short ester but i am in love with orals. Especially Anadrol. It has to be the best drug around. The only downside is that it can mess with blood sugar levels and blood pressure.
 
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Brother i haven't stopped taking Anadrol but for one week and my appetite is through the roof and there are absolutely no signs of liver toxicity except for some lighter colored stools (for the past couple days) which can actually be a whole lot of things. The best part is that i am getting bigger and bigger and it's definitely not water because i keep estrogen under control and my diet is very clean for the most part.

Orals should actually darken your urine...that's a sign that theyare working correctly. The only thing you have to worry about with continued oral use is your body's ability to adapt. Again, this is different for everyone, but the next time you run drol 100mg might not give you a similar effect.

And BTW, increased strength leads to increased size if you're eating right.
 
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Orals should actually darken your urine...that's a sign that theyare working correctly. The only thing you have to worry about with continued oral use is your body's ability to adapt. Again, this is different for everyone, but the next time you run drol 100mg might not give you a similar effect.

And BTW, increased strength leads to increased size if you're eating right.

Yeah, i agree with orals doing that but I drink about 4 liters of water everyday so my urine is just a little bit yellow. Regarding increased strength leading to mass gains, i totally agree with that but i can tell from my previous cycle that test by itself doesn't build any muscle for some very strange reason. I have to rely mostly on anabolics to do that.

I recently found out that I can buy Norma's Deca Durabolin from Drugstores for just 2-3$ per vial so I think i am going to run at least 400mgs along with 600mgs of test for my next cycle. I like UG products but i am afraid that they might be contaminated with heavy metals and that's something i definitely don't want in my body...
 
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Orals work to increase muscle mass in the same way testosterone does. It may be that the orals bloat you more or give the appearance of large gains. But, I would be willing to bet your long term gains are from test....it's really the ultimate bulker.
 
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Orals work to increase muscle mass in the same way testosterone does. It may be that the orals bloat you more or give the appearance of large gains. But, I would be willing to bet your long term gains are from test....it's really the ultimate bulker.

It bet most of the work it does for me is to give me strength gains and to maintain the gains i make from orals. There's not the slightest chance i would ever consider running a cycle without test.
 
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It bet most of the work it does for me is to give me strength gains and to maintain the gains i make from orals. There's not the slightest chance i would ever consider running a cycle without test.

I know brotha, I'm just tryin to think through the whole thing in theory. It's tough to theorize what's actually going on because we know each individual is so different. We just gotta go by the general guidelines and confirm with blood tests.
 
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I totally agree about not isolating arms, especially bis, seems like mine stop growing when I do direct arm work, my best growth has always come when I'm really hitting the pullups and rows. I've never been able to get my bis to grow, but now that I learned that they have gone up a bit, still pathetically small though, especially at my size. I gotta stay off of chins right now due to serious bicep tendonitis, but will be trying some gripless with straps next time I hit upper body.

Weighted chins are the best for bicep mass, IMO.
 
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I totally agree about not isolating arms, especially bis, seems like mine stop growing when I do direct arm work, my best growth has always come when I'm really hitting the pullups and rows. I've never been able to get my bis to grow, but now that I learned that they have gone up a bit, still pathetically small though, especially at my size. I gotta stay off of chins right now due to serious bicep tendonitis, but will be trying some gripless with straps next time I hit upper body.

Weighted chins are the best for bicep mass, IMO.

Every time I stop working my arms, i lose mass. I just changed my training method and my hands started to grow again. I work my triceps after my chest and biceps after my back and I keep my rest periods short (around 1') and do lighter weights for a higher count of reps (12-15).

It seems to be working really good!
 
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