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17 year old First Cycle

BrotherIron

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You're not eating enough.... You think you're eating? Write it down and let's take a look.

You're not training for size/strength.... Again, post what it is you're doing.

Eat Kcal dense foods and wash it all down with whole milk. 5x5 or Wendlers BBB (old template) is what you should follow for your training.
 
Mrhat

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My son is 15. If he comes to me at 24 and said he was going to start a cycle, I'd tell him the reasons he should wait a couple more years. But I'd be like, but it's up to you. If he comes to me at 17, I'll be like "shut up stupid, you are definitely not going to mess your self up at 17 and ruin your self"! If I even hear you come up with something stupid like that again I'm going to bust your head.

Mrhat
 
Superman

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My son is 15. If he comes to me at 24 and said he was going to start a cycle, I'd tell him the reasons he should wait a couple more years. But I'd be like, but it's up to you. If he comes to me at 17, I'll be like "shut up stupid, you are definitely not going to mess your self up at 17 and ruin your self"! If I even hear you come up with something stupid like that again I'm going to bust your head.

Mrhat
No reason to run it at 17, way too much to lose.
 
monsoon

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You've got to feed a troll or he'll get hungry and go somewhere else
 
Mrhat

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You've got to feed a troll or he'll get hungry and go somewhere else
Trolls can be fun. You can do stuff like put sparklers in their ears and make them run circles. Put laxatives in their ice cream, you know, fun troll stuff.

Mrhat
 
CFM

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I know a guy that ran a cycle, one cycle at 16 and he permanently shut down his HTPA. He is in his 40's now and had to inject test for the last 30 years and for the rest of his life.

He had no information, no one to warn him.

Take the most valuable resource available to any man: INFORMATION!

DO NOT USE GEAR WHILE YOUR MANHOOD IS STILL DEVELOPING!
 
ogre

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For 17 you got a great start don't fuck it up.Trt is a good thing for old guys like me but not for young guys.
 
macgyver

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Hell, I gained 40lbs naturally in 2 1/2 years from 18 to 21. You are making a HUGE mistake not trying to let your body grow naturally. Forget your age (which is reason enough BTW) ...but without 3- 4 years of building and training naturally, you will never learn the tools to maintain a physique once you get off. I have seen it many times. Guys get on waaaay to early, and blow up...only to lose all their mass when they come off. They dont know how to eat, train, and live to hold on to it.

Back to the 17 part. Just plain stupid. Accept and learn that what you think is a thought out decision now, is a terrible idea. I waited until I was 40 with almost 15 years of training under my belt. Not saying you need to wait that long....but let your bodies hormonal systems at least mature. In the mean time, learn to train eat and grow. I dont know you at all....but serious....not one guy here (and there is a lot of experience here) has said anything other than this is a TERRIBLE idea.

Good luck.
 
Littleguy

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I think steroids at 17 are a huge mistake, however Shawn Ray, Arnold, and Jay Cutler..........lol may disagree

The chance of making a living off of pro bodybuilding however are mighty slim so play it smart and run drug free for as long as possible while still making gains.
When you are old and want to still be healthy and able to fuck without cialis or viagra or a pump you will thank us, I trained 20 years before touching anything myself:cool:
Be smart
 
FW Haskell

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Wait...

Cutler wasn't a natty ?

I'm confused.
 
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