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hey guys i was wondering if too much protein intake is harmful. I searched the web and there are sites that say if u drink lots of water ur fine then other that say it may cause kidney issues... Well im taking 29g before i workout with carbs and other things then 24g after my workout. This is around 3-4 times a week. Im weighing in about 60kg. Please comment ur opinions i wanna know. thx
You're fine.
you're fine.
You're fine.
but i do want to point out that when speaking about protein intake you only refer to shakes... Meat is protein too... Tasty tasty protein.
You're fined.
You're fired.
Protein in excess could turn to fat but the simply fact is that it has never been scientifically proven what amount is too much. Ive seen studies that show beneficial results for an intake of 1.4 grams or protein per pound of body weight for those that exercise. I have not seen anything that has studied and compared higher intakes though and definitely havent seen any studies that compared protein intake while cycling. My intake usually stays between 1-2 grams per LB depending on cutting/bulking - on/off cycle etc.
protein can't turn to fat :s Some amino acids can be turned into carbs via gluconeogenesis, but only under calorie and carb restriction.
Basically it depends on how much protein you can use. But in the end I find it relatively hard for a bodybuilder to get too much protein. Your demand is just too high if you work out and eat right. When it happens, you'll usually get early warning signs via changes in digestion.
Yes, protein can and will be turned to/stored as bodyfat if you eat more than your body needs to use.Originally Posted by Big Cat
Can not
How's this to determine if you get too much? After a meal, you take a big ass shit. Seriously, I think this can help you determine if you're taking too much.
But I understand Big Cat is a guy who knows his stuff, but I don't agree with you on this. So the guy who takes in 10 000 cals a day while dieting from just protein won't get fat? C'mon...
Yes it's a bit far fetched, but it's just to prove a point.
Yeah, I think you want #4, which indicates that you are digesting your protein.
There are other variables to take into account also, whether the person is "natty" or "enhanced" as a person who is enhanced will obviously be able to "use" more. I would guess everyone is different in terms of what their body can handle, but I rmemeber Dr. Layne Norton saying natties don't need more than 300g, but Doctor Scott Connelly said the higher the better, you just have to see what your body can handle.
Also a better marker to see if you are taking to much protein would be urine not pooping
And for the OP there is one study about protein harming kidneys, but it was done on people that had renal problems to begin with, so that wasn't a well designed study.
Last edited by Snachito; 06-15-2012 at 10:20 PM.
60 grams of protein around your workout isn't going to hurt you at all....
snatchito as always was right on par with an excellent post, I'd post up ur weight age and bf percentage. and than ur diet and have people look at it. if u don't have an exact diet that's fine, but post a general idea of macros. I think that's the best way for more experienced members like snatch and shine to point u in the right directions. and don't worry about protein being too high. It's not uncommon for many of use to hit 400-500 grams a day or 100 grams in a single sitting.
If you eat 10.000 calories from just protein you die. Nobody manages to eat 'just' protein.So what happens is the carbs and EAA in your diet promote insulin response which then incites adipose cells to store more cirulating fat. This is what makes you fat. This is also why on diets we tend to reduce carbs because carbs promote carb use for energy, and basically tell fat stores to store more, and maintain fat. This is very simplistic, but I figured thats the best way to explain it. Biochemically there is simply no way an amino acid can turn into anything remotely related to fat.
True, but it is likely to be wasting protein.Research in healthy trained individuals has shown that 3.4g of leucin on top 16.6g of whey promoted no more muscle protein synthesis than 20g whey. Other researched showed a plateau around 25g of whey after which excess protein was just wasted. Considering weight and metabolism differences its wise to work with an excess of protein, around 30-40g depending on weight for your workout shake, but more than that likely won't be doing much.
This is the reason why you need to increase your number of meals. Forget that bull about raising metabolism, as research also shows that 3 meals or 6 meals makes no diff whatsoever in fat lost on an isocaloric diet. The reason is that post-exercise increase in muscle protein synthesis can last 24-48 hours, meaning meals consumed after are still beneficial, directly, to muscle growth. But there is a limit to what will aid MPS at any given time. by spreading your protein across multiple meals, especially if you consume faster digested proteins, will support MPS more than concentrating it in fewer meals.
Last edited by Big Cat; 06-16-2012 at 04:20 AM.
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