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    When gains get uncomfortable ?

    Ok, this may not be where this post should be but I can live with that. My question, I have been training for years and can put on size pretty easily scince I learned proper technique and have a kinda psychotic attitude to training intensity and very diciplined diet, the issue is how uncomfortable I get toward the 3rd to 4th week of a 8 week mass training eating phase, Im only 5" 6' or 7 and when I hit about 220lb my upper arms hit around 19" even talking on the phone holding it to my ear is a pain ... A friend of mine Gary Wright complained of the same thing about a year or so ago I thought "you poor bastard lol" , now I understand, Gary is a monster though as anyone who has seen him would know. Im nowhere near that league. But if anyone can give me some ideas on staying motivated to reach my size goal before cutting when even walking to shop is too much cardio I have to stop for a breather, my goals are set and I just get discouraged when everyday tasks are an issue ? My bodyfat at present is spot on 13% so I can even dirty up my diet a little for more size . Any pro's out ther or monsters with advice on this mental barrier ?

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    Discouraged because you get too big??? sorry no sympathy here...

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    not disscouraged.. just a bit uncomfortable doing everyday things and lookin for advise to overcome this.. well I dont think its discouraged,
    just in middle of big mass cycle and am used to being very functional, as job as bouncer required this over last 15 years, new job, bigger
    goal, bigger me, less functionalality- agility etc.. Never put this in the equation when I set these new goals, Bitchin about nothin ar'nt I
    really?

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    wait til you get a cramp in your lat trying to wipe your ass.
    do you stretch after sets?
    i always do a nice deep DC style stretch after each muscle group worked

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    I'm 5'7, 270lbs. Wiping your ass after back day is a problem; cramping sucks.

    What is the problem? 220lbs is average.

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    I have a crossfitter at my gym raw PL'r, the guy is constantly telling me how I don't have to loose ROM and flexibility as I get bigger. I'm not giant 5'10" 265lbs but I am not as flexible and I do stretch I'm sure my numerous injuries slow me down there too. But ROM is less and less as I put on more muscle. I bet some of the really bigger guys can attest to that. The cramps when reaching for some shit are unbelievable LOL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halo View Post
    I have a crossfitter at my gym raw PL'r, the guy is constantly telling me how I don't have to loose ROM and flexibility as I get bigger. I'm not giant 5'10" 265lbs but I am not as flexible and I do stretch I'm sure my numerous injuries slow me down there too. But ROM is less and less as I put on more muscle. I bet some of the really bigger guys can attest to that. The cramps when reaching for some shit are unbelievable LOL...
    The trade off we make for maximal strength training is flexibility. This according to Dave Tate. I noticed it right away the first time I went thru Sheiko. I completely lost the ability to wipe myself. There were a few times I had to hop in the shower. But also, pinning delts is difficult as are glutes. I can't sleep in certain positions or "tap dat ass" from certain lying angles... Its always fun when you're on a bunch of tren and caber and going wild and she's loving it and then you get a cramp and look like an idiot on the floor writhing in agony lol... Mood killer.

    But holy shit zomb, you're a big mother ****er!

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    I'm tiny I don't have these problems

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    You can always try P90x

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    I'm 5'5" at 225 pounds... my arms aren't big like yours but I run into the same problems. What keeps me going to get bigger is my goals. When you have a great goal to meet you ignore and work around every obstacle you run into... someone else mentioned something about wiping their ass... I have to wipe mine like a girl cause I can't reach it the normal way at all. I have big time panic attacks from the gear. Do I quit? No, I just go to the doc to get more meds to counter the panic attacks. Blood pressure high? They have meds for that too. Etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halo View Post
    I have a crossfitter at my gym raw PL'r, the guy is constantly telling me how I don't have to loose ROM and flexibility as I get bigger. I'm not giant 5'10" 265lbs but I am not as flexible and I do stretch I'm sure my numerous injuries slow me down there too. But ROM is less and less as I put on more muscle. I bet some of the really bigger guys can attest to that. The cramps when reaching for some shit are unbelievable LOL...
    Those cramps are there ****ing worse... I used to be able to reach out for something and stretch for it. Not now though. I don't want to deal with that pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypochondriac View Post
    I'm 5'5" at 225 pounds... my arms aren't big like yours but I run into the same problems. What keeps me going to get bigger is my goals. When you have a great goal to meet you ignore and work around every obstacle you run into... someone else mentioned something about wiping their ass... I have to wipe mine like a girl cause I can't reach it the normal way at all. I have big time panic attacks from the gear. Do I quit? No, I just go to the doc to get more meds to counter the panic attacks. Blood pressure high? They have meds for that too. Etc.
    That's a slippery slope you are treading on, although your handle says it all. Big Pharm will be the downfall of TRUE health.

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    We all need to choose our goals. Some people like to be huge....some people "think" that they do.....until they put on some size and are uncomfortable. There is no right or wrong.....it all comes down to what you want out of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zomb131 View Post
    I'm 5'7, 270lbs. Wiping your ass after back day is a problem; cramping sucks.

    What is the problem? 220lbs is average.
    Yep, Zomb, you are a monster! Hats off to you bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAD View Post
    That's a slippery slope you are treading on, although your handle says it all. Big Pharm will be the downfall of TRUE health.
    Well, tell you what... I have ran gear for a total of 17 year... 10 years the first time, then an 18 year break, and then another 7 years now. It's not going to really matter what someone has to say about anything I do. I just took a small break after a 5 year run at high doseages and had a blood test done and I'm good to go as always. People not taking gear have panic attacks and take meds for it and live a normal life. My doctor takes zoloft like I do. Should I say something to him? My blood pressure is high but I can't blame the gear for it totally if it's the gear at all. At my age having high blood pressure is normal because my arteries are as flexible any more as they were at a young age.

    He can preach to me till the cows come home. Obviously his goals differ from mine and that's ok... just as long as he doesn't get in my business because its really none of his business. Just as what he does is none of mine and it never will be.

    If I am to slip and fall down on that slippery slope I think it would've happened already. If I told you the gear I run both of you would have a real shit fit.

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